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RE: The Answer is Always the Same: Personal Responsibility

in #philosophy5 years ago

Are you sure the world will never know? We can't use actions like this as a pretty clear signal for what he's most likely to do absent any direct communication with him? Our actions were temporary to get communication going. It was done based on historical actions like what Justin already did within the Tron community, voting with tokens that previously were not to be voted with. That's not a decentralized governance system. Some would argue it's not even a blockchain.

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@lukestokes If you bought a Lambo and a crack baby was trying to steal it would you try to stop him?

Can you really blame Justin for trying to actually have control over the account and funds that he just purchased?

What if the witnesses decided that they don't like what you have to say and locked your account and your funds?

Out of principle I'm just questioning what Justin did from the start besides try to bring Steemit.com back into the conversation? This place hasn't exactly been healthy and has been slipping down CoinMarketCap for a long time.

I can see both sides of the argument but the Witnesses really drew first blood by holding what Justin just bought hostage.

What if a bank held your funds hostage? How would you feel @lukestokes

I think he should have had a conversation like we intended instead of running the whole chain on sock puppets controlled by what looks like one person. That's not a blockchain. That calls into question the entire security model of DPoS (which includes Tron). I didn't see the temporary action is drawing blood, but I can respect that perspective. Justin himself didn't seem too upset based on his first open letter post. I think if the Steem consensus witnesses tried to prevent my funds from voting or being transferrable without a good reason, they would get voted out and people would lose faith in Steem as a blockchain. As to the action taken for this specific stake, there were reasons for them I already explained here. When one witness (Tim) disagreed, they got voted out by the community. Is that not DPoS consensus?

Banks hold funds hostage all the time. That's why I prefer blockchains. I also prefer code-based agreements over social contracts. That's what the ability to removing voting rights feature added in HF14 is about. I do believe this stake is Justin's property. I also think it had expectations set by the owner that are transferrable and need to be clarified by the new owner. Based on those clarifications, the community will go their separate way or stick around.

Honestly, you can't point to a previous action as evidence for a future action. I've ripped off drug dealers before... yet I'll not be doing that again... I've been incredibly unfaithful in relationships before... yet I'll not be doing that again.

Since the move by the witnesses forever prevented us from knowing what would actually have happened, then yes, I am "sure the world will never know" - That's how missed opportunities go.