Uncomfortable thoughts on Equality and Elitism

in #philosophy6 years ago
There is this one video that comes to mind were Dawkins makes a case for the need of elitism. Needless to say the video was not well received and it's possibly the only video by BigThink that has ever gotten that much backlash. That being said, emotions aside, does he have a point?



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Equality, the idea


I happen to love the ideals behind the concept. That is, that we strive to create a system where everyone is equally as important. It sounds beautiful, poetic even, to imagine such Utopia. But, would there be a socio economical consequence for creating such system? I ask with sincerity, because often this part of the conversation is left out of the table.

Even the most famous of speeches is popular because it's holding these ideals up high, on the highest of pedestals although most offer no roadmap to be followed. It almost seems as if I'm dismissing their validity, or their ramifications, but that is not my intent, not in the slightest. They've had repercussions but their are identifiable now, decades later.

Elitism


Is the idea that there are those who are the most adequate to do certain tasks, to understand certain subjects. Of course, we can't believe that all jobs are equally as important in a macro sense, but this is the opposite at a micro level. Simply put, a gardener that makes a mistake is not deciding the fate of the country, but a president is held to a different standard, or at least should be.

We ideally want the best people working on their fields of expertise, key word being ideally. Is this always the case? of course not, but it's hard to argue against efficiency. Unless someone can creatively make a case for the positive impact of negative results.

This is easier to analyze if we attempt to use ourselves as the point of reference. For example: Do I want the best Doctor performing surgery on me, or would anyone do? - The answer is too obvious to even need much explaining.

Foundational Knowledge?


I remember outlining some ideas on this concept and falling short of completing something cohesive. Simply because as much as I've tried to come up with a list of minimum knowledge everyone should have, the spectrum that we represent, the sapiens, is to vast, too anecdotal for a one size fits all list.

Not that I've given up completely on the idea, but I've decided that it might something applicable to a second level, if I am even to call it that. I realize it's getting confusing, but here is my best attempt:

If I decided to be a cryptocurrency enthusiast, if that was my choice. Then, it would be in my best interest to posses a specific foundational knowledge to be effective on the field I've chosen. Could I surf those waters without having these concepts assimilated? Possibly, but the more important question is, Would I want to?

Why?


Seems like some weird philosophical post, even for me. But, I can't help but to find myself having conversations that show me, in my subjective opinion that is, that we have many people in the water, who have never operated a boat.

Does that sound mean? I fear it does, but It's not my intention to offend, not at all. Maybe that is why I think the focus on education is so important for the future of the movement, because until there is enough people with sufficient foundational knowledge, we might keep talking past each other, we just might. Is that elitism again? If so, I apologize.

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I'm never gonna run like Usain Bolt, never gonna be as smart as Albert Einstein. Elitism is real.

Where it falls down is when the elites have power. Being fast or smart doesn't mean you won't be corrupt or selfish.

So, we should delegate our power to the elites, but never hand it over. :)

So, we should delegate our power to the elites, but never hand it over. :)

One lined sums up the best mindset to have... hahah Rodney style for sure.

You strike with your words whenever you write, leaving each individual to their thoughts and perspectives. It is highly unlikely to see a society lives on an equal lifestyle or an equilibrium caliber of standard of living. It is in time immemorial that the fingers ain't equal and will never be. That is, just the simple analogy for this philosophical path and approach. Thank you men0

I have differing views on this, yet in the end i feel we agree. while I do like the idea of making everyone equally as important, I also realize it isnt possible to do in every sense. however i think it's worthy to strive for.

I want the better surgeon of course. yet, can i afford them? keep in mind that doctors make mistakes too, even the best. while we should have a qualified president, i kinda would rather have an ethical and honest one that's a bit of a dunderhead and isnt obsessed by proving themselves.

excellence has its pitfalls. smart successful people tend to be arrogant and blind to their faults. imho they tend to get the entitlement mindset, where everyone else isnt quite as deserving. power corrupts and begets greed. so how is this elitism doing us any favors?

There are some people who just naturally strive to be better. I think the important question is WHY? is it some innate gift? better genes? or is the difference parenting and opportunity? while we should not treat everyone equally, we should strive to give everyone the opportunity to be the best they can be. at the same time we shouldnt be turning a blind eye to people who use power to their own ends.

what we agree on: education (and opportunity) is key.

Haha I read why do they strive to be better as in are they doing it to better everyone else, or are they doing it to prove to others that they are better, or simply to be better so they don't feel like losers?

Very well said Torico... I think we are trying to get to the same destination, just through differents logics

in my subjective opinion that is, that we have many people in the water, who have never operated a boat.

Exactly! I think so too. At least it seems so to me. But i guess this doesnt change anything because i think the "real" Investors know what they are doing, and these are the Guys who bring in serious Money and are able to hold them even when times are rough while Speculators leaving the "sinking" Boat without noticing that it doesnt even sink.

So there are both sides. Everybody has the equal chance to hold their Coins but the People who know what they are doing, have better chances to drive the Boat to the place where it should be and the Guys with the biggest stack have more influence to steer it. Im not an Investor or so, but i think at least this sounds fair.

Thanks for your Post! Its a really good read!^^

P.s: I hope my English was good enough to share my 2 cents. Im not sure if everything fits together grammarwise. ;)

thank you for reading, your msg came across perfectly!

There will always be hierarchies in life - it is an essential part of nature.

Tyrannical corruption is a rather plausible subset and outcome of such natural hierarchies... As such, the key essential is to strike a balance that keeps the propensity for such tyranny in a perpetual state of check.

Everything else IMO is fair game for the taking for those who are willing to sacrifice and work for it.

With regard to attaining a certain level of knowledge - like it or not - IQ matters... and is another matter for discussion relative to those less fortunate trying to run this race called life with IQ's beneath 90.

Such is a relevant topic worthy of future discussion and thought as to how to integrate the less cerebrally endowed successfully into a natural hierarchy that would otherwise render them obsolete and totally useless in the natural order of things.

thought as to how to integrate the less cerebrally endowed successfully into a natural hierarchy that would otherwise render them obsolete and totally useless in the natural order of things.

often something I think about, because no doubt the worth of one life is not measured by its mental capacity and contributions to society come in all shapes and sizes. I fear that some of the social models that we hold up in high regard, like free markets, might not be able to balance out this inequality, for the sake of protecting sacred life.

Me suscribo a cada una de tus palabras, es mi manera de ver las cosas también, estoy de acuerdo con lo que dices.

Educar, creo que es la misión

helpie just got itself another vote. keep up with the good work!

thank you brother, much appreciated.

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Nope Dawkins doesn't "have a point", him and his social darwinism has no place on the blockchain, it's a place where we combat that sort of behavior.
Elitism is a disease...