It is hopeless!

in #philosophy7 years ago

How can I ever possibly stop

and find time for even fleeting closer looks at,
and enjoyment of,
some of the wondrous places
passing by in a flash?

Hopeless!

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The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

BY T. S. ELIOT

S’io credesse che mia risposta fosse
A persona che mai tornasse al mondo,
Questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse.
Ma percioche giammai di questo fondo
Non torno vivo alcun, s’i’odo il vero,
Senza tema d’infamia ti rispondo.

Let us go then, you and I,
When the evening is spread out against the sky
Like a patient etherized upon a table;
Let us go, through certain half-deserted streets,
The muttering retreats
Of restless nights in one-night cheap hotels
And sawdust restaurants with oyster-shells:
Streets that follow like a tedious argument
Of insidious intent
To lead you to an overwhelming question ...
Oh, do not ask, “What is it?”
Let us go and make our visit.

In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.

The yellow fog that rubs its back upon the window-panes,
The yellow smoke that rubs its muzzle on the window-panes,
Licked its tongue into the corners of the evening,
Lingered upon the pools that stand in drains,
Let fall upon its back the soot that falls from chimneys,
Slipped by the terrace, made a sudden leap,
And seeing that it was a soft October night,
Curled once about the house, and fell asleep.

And indeed there will be time
For the yellow smoke that slides along the street,
Rubbing its back upon the window-panes;
There will be time, there will be time
To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet;
There will be time to murder and create,
And time for all the works and days of hands
That lift and drop a question on your plate;
Time for you and time for me,
And time yet for a hundred indecisions,
And for a hundred visions and revisions,
Before the taking of a toast and tea.

In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.

And indeed there will be time
To wonder, “Do I dare?” and, “Do I dare?”
Time to turn back and descend the stair,
With a bald spot in the middle of my hair —
(They will say: “How his hair is growing thin!”)
My morning coat, my collar mounting firmly to the chin,
My necktie rich and modest, but asserted by a simple pin —
(They will say: “But how his arms and legs are thin!”)
Do I dare
Disturb the universe?
In a minute there is time
For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse.

For I have known them all already, known them all:
Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
I know the voices dying with a dying fall
Beneath the music from a farther room.
So how should I presume?

And I have known the eyes already, known them all—
The eyes that fix you in a formulated phrase,
And when I am formulated, sprawling on a pin,
When I am pinned and wriggling on the wall,
Then how should I begin
To spit out all the butt-ends of my days and ways?
And how should I presume?

And I have known the arms already, known them all—
Arms that are braceleted and white and bare
(But in the lamplight, downed with light brown hair!)
Is it perfume from a dress
That makes me so digress?
Arms that lie along a table, or wrap about a shawl.
And should I then presume?
And how should I begin?

Shall I say, I have gone at dusk through narrow streets
And watched the smoke that rises from the pipes
Of lonely men in shirt-sleeves, leaning out of windows? ...

I should have been a pair of ragged claws
Scuttling across the floors of silent seas.

And the afternoon, the evening, sleeps so peacefully!
Smoothed by long fingers,
Asleep ... tired ... or it malingers,
Stretched on the floor, here beside you and me.
Should I, after tea and cakes and ices,
Have the strength to force the moment to its crisis?
But though I have wept and fasted, wept and prayed,
Though I have seen my head (grown slightly bald) brought in upon a platter,
I am no prophet — and here’s no great matter;
I have seen the moment of my greatness flicker,
And I have seen the eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker,
And in short, I was afraid.

And would it have been worth it, after all,
After the cups, the marmalade, the tea,
Among the porcelain, among some talk of you and me,
Would it have been worth while,
To have bitten off the matter with a smile,
To have squeezed the universe into a ball
To roll it towards some overwhelming question,
To say: “I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all”—
If one, settling a pillow by her head
Should say: “That is not what I meant at all;
That is not it, at all.”

And would it have been worth it, after all,
Would it have been worth while,
After the sunsets and the dooryards and the sprinkled streets,
After the novels, after the teacups, after the skirts that trail along the floor—
And this, and so much more?—
It is impossible to say just what I mean!
But as if a magic lantern threw the nerves in patterns on a screen:
Would it have been worth while
If one, settling a pillow or throwing off a shawl,
And turning toward the window, should say:
“That is not it at all,
That is not what I meant, at all.”

No! I am not Prince Hamlet, nor was meant to be;
Am an attendant lord, one that will do
To swell a progress, start a scene or two,
Advise the prince; no doubt, an easy tool,
Deferential, glad to be of use,
Politic, cautious, and meticulous;
Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse;
At times, indeed, almost ridiculous—
Almost, at times, the Fool.

I grow old ... I grow old ...
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.

Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?
I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.

I do not think that they will sing to me.

I have seen them riding seaward on the waves
Combing the white hair of the waves blown back
When the wind blows the water white and black.
We have lingered in the chambers of the sea
By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown
Till human voices wake us, and we drown.

Source: Collected Poems 1909-1962 (1963)

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Time, the Merciless HEROPASS

“Man is given a definite number of experiences—economizing them, he prolongs his life.”
Aphorism inscribed above the walls of the Study House at the Prieuré.

The secret to prolong the duration of our being-existence is in changing our relationship with the flow of Time. Time itself cannot change because Time is self-sufficient and self-independent, flowing of itself and by itself, and like the flow of Divine Love, Time flows wholeness and endlessness.
http://www.gurdjieff-internet.com/article_details.php?ID=309&W=21

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ouzo and out,
@onceuponatime
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hey, once: Snap out of it!!!

@twiceuponatime

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To describe this post I have one word: It is powerful.
But this aphorism, that "Man is given a definite number of experiences—economizing them, he prolongs his life.” ... I think the opposite is true. On the contrary, in my opinion, the more feelings, experiences and emotions we experience, the deeper and more our life. Time is ruthless. So why should we be sad about this? We must live here and now, in this moment. And if you want to enjoy the view, then who dares you to ban. Just stop and watch. See as much time as your eyes require.

But perhaps it is more fruitful to go deeper into fewer experiences than to, in a shallow way, experience many more?

I think that for each person there is an answer to this question. We're all different, and that's great. So someone wants to go in depth, not in vain wasting. And someone else catches every moment of life, as a traveler water in the desert. All this is perfectly subjective. And I think that these opposites of views have their own charm.
We all choose our way, we go different ways. Isn't that great? But in the end, whatever path you choose, the winner will always be Time. It will compare us all at the end of the road.

I like your response. Thank goodness we are all different and have different perspectives.

@onceuponatime,
Seems like you are looking at the heaven from behind! I think it's an island!
(I am not an expert to explain feelings about the poetry.)

Cheers~

You are crazy

Thank you

@onceuponatime,
I challenged you for 7 day B&W Challenge Day #3 :D I hope you didn't notice it!
You are welcome!

Cheers~

"Beyond the horizon of the place we lived when we were young
In a world of magnets and miracles
Our thoughts strayed constantly and without boundary
The ringing of the division bell had begun........
.............
The grass was greener
The light was brighter
The taste was sweeter
The nights of wonder
With friends surrounded
The dawn mist glowing
The water flowing
The endless river
Forever and ever"
(High Hopes, Pink Floyd)

Once upon a time, things were simpler, not striving to tame time...

"Magnets pull and push us 'round,
To cut the cord, a chord must sound."
..... spiral of friends

You only live once upon a time.. However it is impossible to see everything once.

Once you try, you realize how impossible it is...

But it must be fun trying. :)

@twiceuponatime seems to think differently.

Sir,your magazine.
I think you like it
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I like the red shoes!!

Thank you very much for encouraging me and I hope I'll create a post in a few days that you will love

You stolen my mind via amazing poetry and beautiful scenery indeed location @onceuponatime.

I didn't steal your mind! I just found it unattended, and I will turn it in to the Lost and Found Department LOL

Hahaha.........your humour is just amazing....you look like you r in ur teens.......but your posts express the maturity...,
@onceuponatime you are amazing

As a student of English poetry is really loveable to me....and I think in the word hopeless, without less there is still hope, so live your life without being depressed of bad moment..

Hope(less) - hey, you are right! Without "less" there is left Hope!

The place looks stunning.Reminds me of a Greek island (that i have only seen in photos or documentaries since access is forbidden unless you belong to the elit) Skorpios

One thing is for sure.That time is ruthless.
I wish we could have that knowledge since our childhood...but it seems that we realize it as we get older
But there is no need for desperation dear @onceuponatime...

Have a great day!

I am desperate to overcome my desperation :-)

Well sometimes this is the hardest task.

That's the thing about life @onceuponatime.
You can't see it all, so you just have to focus on making the best out of the experiences you're opportuned to have.

How to choose which ones to spend time with?

Something like that.
Pick the ones that offer the most value and make the best out of them.

I think that the solution is to have an "aim". Then you choose to engage with whatever moves you towards your aim, and disengage from what does not move you towards your aim.

Yeah.
There's a word for that; it's called Pareto's Principle. You basically summarized the concept with your comment.

I think that the Pareto Principle is the 80/20 rule and quite different from what I was attempting to explain.

I wasn't quite clear with that.

What I meant is that you summarized pareto's principle as it applies to self improvement.

A couple weeks ago I read The Focal Point by Brian Tracy. The book is all about how you can apply pareto's principle to your life. A lot of that information is still floating in my head.

What is this place on the top photo? It's absolute stunner.

Well, as I am complaining about in this post, I didn't have time to even stop and ask its name as I drove by on the opposite side of this lake in Switzerland (much less cross over and visit the place).

a very nice look i think i should plan to visit it
I think it is the interesting content among all in this post