Neds pre mined SP is being used to promote Steem abuse!

in #plagiarism7 years ago (edited)

Surpassinggoogle has received a half million SP delegation from ned and he is using some of it to promote his "bro" who is a massive plagiarist who is mostly posting plagiarized posts by most likely using rephrase tools.

Surpassinggoogle upvoted this post by him. It is entirely plagiarized from this book.

I went to article rewrite tool and checked one paragraph. Here's the result:

He is literally using article rewriter tool to plagiarize whole articles and then he is editing out the errors made in the machine rewrite to ensure no one is able to find out what he is upto. He got a 70 SP my plagiarizing posts and earned 1000+ dollars by doing basically nothing but plagiarizing posts.

When I reached out to surpassinggoogle, he refused to remove his votes and asked his "bro" to add source. Adding source to totally plagiarized posts doesn't make it any better. Cause the whole post is stolen from someone elses work. And the frightening fact is that this plagiarism enabler is one of the top witnesses. He has voted many many more of his plagiarized posts. For more details, read my previous post about this plagiarist.


https://steemit.com/zappl/@juvyjabian/relax-and-zapp-a-while#@surpassinggoogle/re-juvyjabian-relax-and-zapp-a-while-20171112t122242100z

They may be connected to each other as you can see in the above message. Having him as a top witness is potentionally dangerous for the whole platform.

One last thing, the plagiarist is witdrawing a lot of Steem which is most likely contributing to the recent price loss of steem.

Update

For those claiming it is "one instance out of a thousand": No it is not one instance. He has voted many posts by the plagiarist and the votes are probably automated. I asked him to remove his votes on the plagiarized posts but he didn't take any action.

The list of confirmed plagiarized posts by Juvy the plagiarist:

https://steemit.com/history/@juvyjabian/european-spiritual-challenges-and-its-authority
https://steemit.com/science/@juvyjabian/the-nature-of-our-solar-system
https://steemit.com/history/@juvyjabian/europe-s-religion-warfare
https://steemit.com/arcane-teaching/@juvyjabian/understanding-the-arcane-teaching
https://steemit.com/human-nature/@juvyjabian/the-differences-of-rank-and-the-reason-of-human-desires

https://steemit.com/history/@juvyjabian/how-did-the-aryans-lived-their-lives-during-the-ancient-india plagiarized from https://www.google.com/search?q=Were+the+women+in+Namuci%27s+army+human+or+mother+goddesses%3F&source=lnms&tbm=bks&biw=1236&bih=631

Also, he is using fake sources. I am confident that all of his pending articles other than the last four articles (published after my expose) are plagiarism.

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It's true that we don't condone plagiarism, however I agree with many others who have responded that you need to change your tone. Did this really require a post? I'm not saying that to be mean, but why can't a simple conversation with him suffice to raise the issue? It seems like you are trying to gain more visibility through controversy, which in essence is working.

As for asking people to remove their votes, why don't you get to know the person first. If you really understood why people were voting for him as a witness you would see that it has nothing to do with his Steem Power, his affiliation with Ned or any other Witness/Individual and what he can do when upvoting a post. @surpassinggoogle does so many things for the Steemit community. He hosts an RPC server to help load balance the traffic from Steemit, He has several initiatives that support a huge number of Steemit users and focuses on countries and regions with struggling economies and the people within those regions, he frequently joins charity events and meetups to spread the word about Steemit and encourage/teach. He gets down in the weeds to meet people and spends time with those who are less fortunate.

I have met him in person on several occasions and regardless of who you are he puts others first before himself. He has so many projects going on that he rarely gets to sleep. For these reasons alone he has my vote and support. With all that he has going on including various health issues and a focus on his family who he hasn't seen in ages, he has very little time to go back through every single post of the 1000's he has probably voted on to adjust his vote.

So a few plagiarized posts got through. That doesn't mean he supports plagiarism. Call the plagiarized posts out and let the community know so they know not to support them in the future. Why attack the person who is doing everything to support the overall steemit community.

It's true that we don't condone plagiarism, however I agree with many others who have responded that you need to change your tone. Did this really require a post? I'm not saying that to be mean, but why can't a simple conversation with him suffice to raise the issue? It seems like you are trying to gain more visibility through controversy, which in essence is working.

You are making speculative claims here. I have already had a conversation with him in which I pointed out that he was supporting a plagiarist. He then asked the plagiarist to add source. But the plagiarist realized that he has been found out, so he deleted that entire article.

He also appears know the plagiarist guy with whom he most likely is talking in private chat. He is also running bots that are negatively impacting the whole site.

He needs to publicly address what is his relation with the plagiarist. He seems to be quite close with him. Added screenshots of my conversation with him below:

I am not the only one who asked:

So a few plagiarized posts got through. That doesn't mean he supports plagiarism. Call the plagiarized posts out and let the community know so they know not to support them in the future. Why attack the person who is doing everything to support the overall steemit community.

I did exactly that in my previous post. I published this because I believe the plagiarist is probably someone close to him.

I totally agree. If @littleboy intentions are good, he can talk to 'em like a BIG BOY!

Hey bro, i just called you bro. It is a general term for brother and regardless, that is how i regard you.
Even cheetah grew heart. So read this: https://steemit.com/steemit/@surpassinggoogle/greetings-from-the-hospital-me-and-my-mum-eventually-saw-a-new-full-rpc-public-node-wss-steemd-steemgigs-org-that-has-been-in

I am glad you change your use of the term rapist. That's change on your part and i happy about that.
Even if someone makes one error, i will educate and love and will not go back to remove all my votes on this person because you want it. There are ways to handle things and in my case, it is paced. If you want to hurry, that is your way and we are far apart when it comes to ways. Plus, juvy has some history, you should go back on history, don't cover just recent posts and be conclusive. Go back till his very first post and try to understand how he got to rep 70, then question each soul that took him there.

You have much many steem power.. Awesome..
Cooolll
@surpassinggoogle

Your little 1% upvote made me curious and go back to this post. Smart move, there was a lot more information to be found now, +100 comments instead of none, will give you at least the credit of 100% doubt now and i always choose the positive approach when in doubt, you are free to go :-)

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Ok if you have enough evidence on this, you have the right to express that. The question is" ARE they good ENough?

Point 1. When @surpassinggoogle said "Hi bro talk soon"
What does it mean to you? You take it too deep, this means "HE will talk to juvyjabian, it can be ANYTHING BRO. If they know each other nothing wrong with that. What is wrong knowing each other?

If he found guilty. I say "IF ". Do we forgive??? My answer is YES! I forgive, but not ATTACK!

did you talk heart to heart to @surpassinggoogle and explain him in details what you found out? or you just leave a short comment and made a decision from there and make a post like this?

But making a post "requesting all seniors users to remove their votes, attacking him that he is abusing the power?? Way too much @littleboy.

Feel free to check my blog.
PEACE!

@surpassinggoogle is a main stay of steemit, many of his initatives help so many. Like a friend of mine above noted this seems more like an attack, than an investigation. Let me ask you. What do you do to make steemit better, bring in new blood, and create an atmosphere of acceptance. #steemgigs is a wonderful aspect of this platform. He votes for hundreds of people a day, of that I am sure.

stop witch hunting and do something positive for steemit, rather than try to discredit one of its greatest proponents,

God Bless all of you my friends at #steemgigs!

I totally agree with you @steveblack.
His post is more than ATTACK than making the platform a better place.
If you @littleboy want Steemit to be a happy place, start it within yourself.
Be happy for other success and start counting your blessings!

Agree with you both. He has (without prompting or discussion) told me to stop upvoting certain people because they wronged him somehow. No, that's not the way I work.

I'm glad you followed your heart:)

But you just pointed one instances out of a thousand, this sounds like an attack rather than an investigation mate. And we all have reasons to withdraw Steem/SBDs; i pray you don't have desperate needs to do so, so that shouldn't account for the down price of Steem just from one user!

I didn't even know he ran a witness but now that I do and I already know he makes every effort to do good for the platform.

He is down below 50 after my expose (can't see his entry in the page xD). Your vote won't have much effect. And it isn't one instance. All the pending posts at the time of expose were plagiarism. And we expect witnesses to not support things that will sink the boat.

That's interesting you say he was in the top 50 when you "exposed" this but if you look at steemdb you can see he has gained a lot more support than he's lost.

That's not how it works. It depends on stack. I see, tamim voted him. I will ask to remove. If tamim removes then he would be down below standy.

All for what

@littleboy, You voted Terry every hours today, we are going to have a parteyyyyy! Nov. 16, 2017

https://steemdb.com/@steemgigs/witness

I am composing a comment to this little boy right now, and I can definitely say I'm really glad to see you here defending Terry :

He is also running unregulated bots that are upvoting on anyone including abusive posts.

I see you are getting upvotes from surpassinggoogle.

Exactly my point man, he votes on a lot of people so i was confused...Please go ahead with your investigation; eagerly waiting for your outcome!

And if you find my references and source, then you would know some of us ain't down for Copyright thefts!

The point isn't that he voted on him. The point is that he refused to stop supporting plagiarism and is talking with a plagiarist behind the doors.

I totally understand why you are defending him. Cause if he loses his delegation, your payouts in your future posts will decrease.

You really have a myopic view of things,Just like asking me to remove my vote on this post because you just mentioned me defending some kind hearted man who upvotes hundreds of user..... i thought you are way matured for all this:

I totally understand why you are defending him. Cause if he loses his delegation, your payouts in your future posts will decrease.

I leave you to your investigations and be sure to do so for over 200 or more people he votes on in a day man.

Here's what you said:

But you just pointed one instances out of a thousand, this sounds like an attack rather than an investigation mate.

Nope. There hasn't been a thousand istances of whales talking behind the doors with plagiarists. Also, whales generally remove upvotes on such posts if pointed out.

And we all have reasons to withdraw Steem/SBDs; i pray you don't have desperate needs to do so, so that shouldn't account for the down price of Steem just from one user!

Witdrawing steem isn't the problem here. Making money by stealing other peoples work and then using that money to decrease the price of steem is the problem.

Man, i have no idea what happened behind closed doors, but your statements saying i get upvotes from him too sounds too cunny, am sure you know that he votes on over hundreds of posts like mine that ain't plagiarize. It is good to seek peace, i tried in my comments but have no idea what i just stumbled on!

Ignore this fool, flag my comment...when you make accusation, lay out clear evidence

You need to chill out yo.

I am confused. Why dont you just flag what you think is plagiarized?
isn't that why we can flag things?

So this is why you are upset (jealous). We get upvotes and you don't. Hmmmm.... We are getting somewhere

I have got upvotes from him. That's not the issue here.

So it's something else, but there is an issue. Can you give us an honest explanation ? And what exactly are you trying to prove ?

This is not an instances out of thousands. I have asked him to remove upvotes but he defended the abuser. And he replied to him "hi bro, talk soon" after some time I revealed it. What is he talking about behind the doors?

abuser? a reward pool rapist? What else did you call him?

Oh!....well they might have a pending discussion

Anyways, one-love mate!

Man it is a cheap and sad attack on someone who is literally killing himself manually voting and commenting hundreds of posts everyday.

And also someone who really cares about helping build communities.

I am not supporting plagiarised content but making such harsh accusations from 1 case out of the hundreds of votes @surpassinggoogle casts everyday is not right man.

You have to understand that at those levels of manual curation it is impossible to check all the sources, and engage with the users and all the work steem means.

We have cheetah for signaling plagiarism and he uses that as a guide like many of us that are concerned about the humans behind the steemit blog.

Yet he listened to you and your complains, and took the time to tell the poster.

If you are not satisfied by that, you could have commented there suggesting not to use text spinners and all that you present here...

First, good job outing plagiarism.

Second, I reckon your post reeks of the fury of the scorned, seeming to be motivated by @surpassinggoogle's refusal to obey you.

Perhaps you would have more impact were you to edit your tone a bit. I'm not saying you're wrong, but that the impression you convey is that of one entitled to obedience, and implies a threat to all who might dare to defy you, and your like-minded cohort, of public emasculation.

I would be likely to be strongly supportive of your underlying point were it not so framed.

While I'd prefer it if you didn't feel my comment here is an attack, I have to point out that if my criticism is taken as constructive, you will benefit your cause, and will prove my point if you consider it an attack.

I'll be interested in seeing which direction you view it from, and we'll go from there.

Second, I reckon your post reeks of the fury of the scorned, seeming to be motivated by @surpassinggoogle's refusal to obey you.

First of all, I would like to remind you that he is was among the top 50 witnesses. Not sure if you know what that even means. Also, another whale user has been supporting this plagiarist. I have largely didn't do much talking to him about voting of the plagiarist. Because he is using his own money to give votes.

But steemgigs aka surpassinggoogle is a top witness and therefore, his case is different. The money he is giving away comes from investors who have used their own money to buy the coins. And the posts that he upvoted were serious cases of plagiarism that could lead to blocking of the main site.

I have seen a few posts saying golos was blocked by Russia for copyright infrigment. I don't want that to happen with steemit.

Not sure if you know what that even means.

I find it incredibly ironic that you would talk down to somebody like this when you yourself clearly don't know too much.

  1. He's not in the top 19.
  2. All of the money on the platform comes from the reward pool. The money doesn't come from the investors. The price is set by the markets. Nobody invested in bitcoin cash before it had a $600 value instantly after the fork.
  3. The investors you're referring to didn't put their money in they mined the cryptocurrency.
  4. Plagiarism will not lead to the site being blocked. This is a blockchain on which the plagiarism still exists.
  5. This guy was trying to help you and you realise you proved his point, right?...

He's not in the top 19.

I am fairly sure he was in the top 19 or top 50 when I wrote my previous post. I saw his name in steemit witness vote page. Only top 50 witnesses stay there. His rank decreased after my expose.

All of the money on the platform comes from the reward pool. The money doesn't come from the investors. The price is set by the markets. Nobody invested in bitcoin cash before it had a $600 value instantly after the fork.

The market is set my the investors. Their inflated money is what funds the rewards pool.

The investors you're referring to didn't put their money in they mined the cryptocurrency.

Did tamim mine crypto?

Plagiarism will not lead to the site being blocked. This is a blockchain on which the plagiarism still exists.

Yes, it will. Example, piratebay, kickass etc etc.

His rank decreased after my expose.

You mentioned this several times, sounded like you wanted to prove to yourself that your hatred post achieve something. Hatred posts are as worse as plagiarized posts.

whew??? The last time I check HE's rank went up after your post.

He was among the top 50. He is now down to 61.

mmmm are you sure that he went down after your attack? mmmmm I doubt it.
I see, you are happy that he is down. If that makes you happy you can celebrate and attack more!

remember bro, it's only a number bro. ONLY A NUMBER. It will not change anything for us, we will uplift him and love him more. He is number 1 for me.

We are going to have #steemgigs party! you are invited:) because everybody is welcome.

xoxo

HAHAHAHHA ...^_^ i love this comment @sunnylife

I appreciate your thoughtful and informative reply, but would humbly point out that I didn't disagree with the substance of your post, merely the tone. You actually didn't address that matter in your reply, although you indicated by the selected quote that you are aware of the specific particulars of my point.

Also, while I appreciate that many find witnesses somewhat opaque, I have some grasp of their purpose, and will point out that it is one of my primary concerns regarding Steemit, Steem, and SMTs. Witness votes are stake weighted, just as are all votes on Steemit, and the witnesses are the mechanism that controls the code that controls the blockchain.

This means that buying the mined stakes of the founders, and using it to control which witnesses run code, allows anyone with enough money to take over not only Steemit, but the Steem blockchain itself. The fact that those mined stakes are necessary to this hostile takeover/Sybil attack means that the founders will become millionaires when it happens.

If you think about it, SMTs are just as vulnerable as Steem, and the top witnesses, Stinc, and other substantial holders of stake are both aware of this, and are not acting to change it.

While copyright infringement isn't inconsequential, the media could buy the blockchain for less than the cost of lunch for the top 1% of them. I reckon this is more relevant to the felicity of Steemers than plagiarism.

While all that is what it is, my only substantive criticism of your OP, is your tone, not the points you make about @surpassinggoogle, plagiarism, or other matters. Perhaps you find my observation insipid, vapid, or otherwise irrelevant, and that's your choice.

All I sought is to reduce the appearance of virtue signaling, and promote rational criticism. I far prefer the latter.

Hi @valued-customer, I like the way you have handled the comment discussion so I was wondering what your thoughts are on a factcheck service on steemit: https://steemit.com/bisteemit/@plushzilla/fact-check-tag-post-for-steemit-proposal-to-promote-transparency-and-accuracy-of-content

sorry I missed your comment until now.

Thanks for your kind words, and I'll have a look ASAP.

Do you know how I discovered this post? I saw your comment to @berniesanders in another post where you slobbered all over him, telling him how you once thought he was evil but now realized how great he is. It caused me to check out your page and do you know what I think of this post? It's a pathetic grab for attention of whales, and the comment that led me here was a hope for upvotes from Bernie. He's far from stupid, he will see through your butt smooching sooner or later little boy.

It is extremely unlike me to write a comment like this, but this whole thing made me really angry. Terry busts his butt for this platform, has been busting his butt long before he was ever given a delegation from Ned. I took a look at the post you're using against him, and it is an extremely honest mistake, only someone with a lot of time on their hands would realize that was plagiarized considering it lists a host of sources at the bottom. Even if the sources were added after--someone as busy as Terry would not realize there was a problem with that post. If anyone is at fault it is the one who created it. One of Terry's mandates for the delegation is to encourage the steemit community of the Philippines which is exactly what he was meaning to do- @juvyjabian is from that community.

I can only imagine how upset he must be over this one, he's been fretting since the beginning that he would do something wrong, he was given a lot of responsibility--that he did NOT ask for I might add.

As far as I can see this attack on Terry is entirely self-serving. I can only hope that it won't take Bernie long to realize that you are the 'vote buying' type of steemian that he generally dislikes, all he'll need to do is take a quick peek at this post: https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@littleboy/decrease-upvote-strength-if-a-user-is-posting-more-than-two-contributions-per-day

Payout from other sources: 407$
Payout from politically incorrect whale @berniesanders: 0$

Your whole comment is nothing more than a personal attack.

This post was an attack. My comment was in defense of someone who did not deserve this post. I will admit it was a bit hostile. Like I said, really unlike me- in fact it's extremely difficult to get a comment from me that is not encouraging and most often full of love, so bravo little boy, you should be very proud of yourself, performing all kinds of feats.

And I didn't assume Bernie would vote on you simply because you hoped he would.

This type of thing is only going to bring negativity your way. But you can certainly choose to go on witch hunts if you want to.

What about yours to Terry? I also checked yhur wallet and i discovered that yhu have been bribing ppl to downvote others. What a life

Surpassinggoogle has received a half million SP delegation from ned and he is using some of it to promote his "bro" who is a massive plagiarist who is mostly posting plagiarized posts by most likely using rephrase tools.

When you say "bro" in some parts of the world, it does not mean you are related or connected as you are implying, it's a form of greeting or show of care in some parts of the world, understanding little things like that matter. Now in case you don't know, @surpassinggoogle is actually a nice guy and has steered so many authors away from plagiarism rather than towards plagiarism. He might have told the person to cite references might simply be as a result of the way you made the report to him.

Surpassinggoogle upvoted this post by him. It is entirely plagiarized from this book.

Was it a 100% upvote? I am guessing the answer is NO! If it were, that would be a conspiracy, but instead, it was the same vote he gave "everyone" else and there was no special treatment being given to the "bro" as you are trying to speculate. He is a man who prefers the smooth instead of harsh approach.
So is @surpassinggoogle his only supporter? Why a post about @surpassinggoogle?

When I reached out to surpassinggoogle, he refused to remove his votes and asked his "bro" to add source.

Please for the sake of fair reporting, remove this line, if I am going to be honest, this seems like something personal and a report with hasty conclusions and generalizations, not backed by solid proof because I have heard @surpassinggoogle more times than I can count and I am starting to wonder if this is to report a plagiarist or to have a go at @surpassinggoogle.

And the frightening fact is that this plagiarism enabler is one of the top witnesses. He has voted many many more of his plagiarized posts.

Like I said, this is not balanced reporting, you omitted the fact that he votes a lot of people and has helped them earn even if it a dollar or two. While I frown at plagiarism, it is worthy of note that @surpassinggoogle has done more good than you'll ever know and is not trying to shield any "bro" like you are assuming. The point is you are tailoring your post towards the wrong angle and it is wrong.

Cause he is being supported by two big whales. One of which is surpassinggoogle. He got half million SP from ned. So, neds SP is being used to abuse steem ;). And the abuser is a "bro" of surpassinggoogle. I will send a transection to ned asking to remove his delegation.

I got this from your other post, my point is this is an extreme route to take for someone who has tried to keep a clean sheet on the platform.

They are also connected to each other as you can see in the above message. I would like to request all senior users who have voted surpassinggoogle for witness (steemgigs) to remove their votes. Having him as a top witness is potentially dangerous for the whole platform.

Now I really have to ask, is this about the plagiarist or about surpassinggoogle? Because asking people to remove their votes on surpassinggoogle because you had a memo conversation with him is wrong. Did you contact him on steemit.chat? Did you try discord perhaps? If you did, where is the evidence of the chat? You need to understand that the solution to a minor headache is not to totally cut off the head.
They are not connected to each other simply because he said bro. I call people bro a lot, that does not imply relation with them, just as I also call people sir out of respect too. It's all about understanding people's culture and habits. Try not to form a whole connection from a single statement, it is wrong and this is almost equal to slander. I know you might mean well, but be careful so you don't accuse falsely.

One last thing, the plagiarist is witdrawing a lot of Steem which is most likely contributing to the recent price loss of steem.

I believe this is an open platform where you are free to withdraw at will? What if he has an emergency? What if he needs it for something important? My anger is that it might have been acquired from plagiarism and spinning.
Great job, but wrong finishing sir.