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RE: Jordan Peterson Proves White Privilege Exists

in #politics7 years ago

I'm torn on Jordan Peterson. He does raise some interesting points and make ~some~ compelling arguments (albeit in a very alpha bro kind of way), but he is thought provoking. I am a little disappointed by how the uber conservative bro community has lapped up everything he's said.... with the exception of not falling for identity politics... they seem to ignore that bit.

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He's infuriating. He makes sense about half the time and seems to always segway into sexist nonsense. I think that's kind of the thing though, the alt-right loves him because of his traditional views on religion/gender but he's smart enough to not go the whole alt-right route.

He claims often that he leads people away from the alt-right but I'm not so sure. In one interview he claimed that the comments section on his Youtube channel were very smart and civil... but I'm sitting there like "but you realize that people take snippets of your videos and spread them around alt-right channels and sites to support their views, right?"

Not to mention he seems to turn everything into an attack on the left, and tacitly equates the left with Marxism every chance he gets. I've lost count of the number of times he says things like "The alt-right is terrible, but the left..." and then launches into a detailed diatribe of something he perceives about the left. I feel like there's a term for that kind of propaganda but haven't gotten around to looking it up yet.

This guy actually goes into an exploration of how Mr. Peterson defines truth when it suits him, and while the guy seems to agree with Jordon on most things I think it's actually very revealing of how Jordan actually approaches most topics:

Woah, fantastic video. Definitely chips away at his arguments. Thanks for sharing.

He definitely attacks the left with complete disdain for political correctness and gender equality (ignoring intellectual capacity/potential). It is frustrating and even more infuriating that the Alt-Right cherry picks his quips and slogans to laud themselves as intellectually enlightened. It's like "Christians" who quote select bits of the bible and ignore the others.

I think the comparative argument about the Left is simple DEFLECTION. Conservatives have mastered the ability to deflect the discussion away from the criticisms of their beliefs to something else particularly things they hate or that their critics embrace.

and seems to always segway into sexist nonsense.

What sexist nonsense?

but I'm sitting there like "but you realize that people take snippets of your videos and spread them around alt-right channels and sites to support their views, right?"

And what possible clips can you take from him to support Alt Right views?
You won't find any.

When he says he's against identity politics he's naturally talking also about the alt-right identity politics so he's not on their side either. The only way anyone Alt Right can like Jordan is if they mistakenly think everything he's saying against the SJW's doesn't also by definition also apply to them. But then people are that blinkered so of course that is one of the myriad of things you see.

And what possible clips can you take from him to support Alt Right views?
You won't find any.

When he says he's against identity politics he's naturally talking also about the alt-right identity politics so he's not on their side either. The only way anyone Alt Right can like Jordan is if they mistakenly think everything he's saying against the SJW's doesn't also by definition also apply to them. But then people are that blinkered so of course that is one of the myriad of things you see.

This video is a good example. Who knows what else was said, but he spends a lot of time talking about the identity politics of the left, briefly mentions the right does it too, then goes back to hammering on the left and even calling them murderous.

The biggest identity politics game being played on the right is creating the perception that liberals are evil.

He even admits in this clip he saves most of his vitriol for the left. He is playing identity politics, it's just that he's using left vs. right instead of the groups you normally think of.