10 Philosophical and Spiritual life lessons from Jiddu Krishnamurti + My own commentary and personal insights regarding them

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Jiddu Krishnamurti is one of the greatest teachers ever lived. I haven't read a whole lot about him. But the little I know is sufficient to form my conclusion. As I mentioned in my post on Hyper Efficient Content Consumption you can learn a lot about anything if you observe and focus on some specific important things. Everything in life has a different importance. Some things are simply unimportant. But many things are simply less important. Checking daily news is less important. Breaking apart some socialist propaganda is less important. Personal spiritual development is highly important. If you are about to meditate, the making sure that you are not hungry or thirsty is also very important.

I want to share some of the best quotes from Jiddu Krishnamurti to help you realize how much of a great wise person he was. I too had heard many great things. But until I came across little bit of writing + one very important incident in Krishnamurti's life. You can read about that here: https://steemit.com/philosophy/@vimukthi/jiddu-krishnamurti-one-of-the-wisest-men-in-modern-times-and-a-man-who-was-brought-up-to-be-the-second-coming


Being an ambivert I truly know the importance of this quote. Some even goes as far as to say that an individual would go mad if he/she had to live absolutely alone for a long period of time. Some claim that the humans are social creatures that depend on the society to a great degree. To me there is a profound sickness under those words. Being alone is the most natural thing in the world. That is how you came to this world and that is how you are going to leave it. Just think for a moment about the amount of words or concept you can just throw away while you are truly alone. Racism, nationalism, sexism, fascism and many more -isms and words like leftism, alt-right, social justice, triggering, mansplianing and pretty much everything related to politics and group labels would disappear. The labels people put on themselves would disappear. This is when you truly get to know yourself.

This is where you see beauty as it is instead of beauty as what it should be.



Forests don't make trees. Trees make forests. If we take care of the trees and nourish them, everything else would fall into their respective places. Mind is the source of all action. Without mind, one cannot make decisions and act accordingly. A mind that is nourished and spiritually developed will result in good things in all areas of life.

Do the world a favor: Help Yourself!



This is just basically being in the "Zone" or getting into the "Flow". Some religious people drags divinity into to this. But it's basically doing the thing completely. I think this post will go very well with the above quote: https://steemit.com/buddhism/@vimukthi/an-invitation-try-this-near-impossible-but-very-simple-meditation-challenge-which-even-the-experts-fail-at-philosophy

Simple but golden words. Actions can be emulated. The reason behind a great deal of good things done on this planet is evil. I don't mean this as a road to hell paved with good intentions kind of way. I mean it more like "I'll be the nicest person on Earth so I can win the god damn election/ get the job/ bang the chick/ get the inheritance etc." You want to murder someone..... get close and be the best servant. Serve like a dog. Miss few chances to kill and make the trust go deeper. Then just casually slit the throat and leave never to come back again. Even without a sinister master plan people do good stuff to win points, signal virtue, show off etc. People also do stuff out of fear. They say things or refrain from saying things because they are afraid of getting slapped with a label. They will do disgusting acts and still not say a word in protest. Just research the statistics on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

For additional reading, here is a short story - Part 1 Part 2

“Governments want efficient technicians, not human beings, because human beings become dangerous to governments – and to organized religions as well. That is why governments and religious organizations seek to control education.”

This one is pretty obvious to any Libertarian/anarcho-capitalist. As Milgram Experiments proved, defiance is an anomaly. Dignity and individuality sells for very cheap prices. People don't want to think or make decisions. Telling people what to do and think is the job of governments and religion. They are institutions of oppression of the highest degree.


This one actually ties into the first one. People are afraid to loose their labels. Think about getting people to invest in cryptocurrencies. A person would be OK with going to Vegas and loosing $500 but buying crypto with it would be a no no. Siding with cryptocurrency would mean turning the back on the entire economic structure of this planet. It would be getting on board a form of money that is meant to end the fiat. This also connects to dogma. Sometimes accepting that Russia isn't the biggest threat to the world or that socialism is one of the most destructive philosophies ever would mean going beyond a pre-established narrative. Above all this is apparent when it comes to Quantum Mechanics which even Einstein couldn't even come into terms with. His last years were spent desperately attempting to establish his pre-established narratives despite the evidence regarding the truth of QM.

“To transform the world, we must begin with ourselves; and what is important in beginning with ourselves is the intention. The intention must be to understand ourselves and not to leave it to others to transform themselves or to bring about a modified change through revolution, either of the left or of the right. It is important to understand that this is our responsibility, yours and mine...”

Nobody is going to offer you salvation and there is no one that is capable of saving another person. Those who have saved themselves can offer guidance and point where to look for answers. Revolutions are like post-modernism. It nver adds anything to life. It can only point flaws.

If flaws are all you see, then the flaws become your reality instead of the transgression of those flaws.



I can say many things about this. But what about silence. Fixing that which isn't broken will lead to eventual destruction of it. As for an exercise, describe what's good about a great music piece. I'll show you a complete lack of music in it.



The sickness to me is the seeking of truth beyond oneself. Wisdom gained through insight into truth is a state of being. It's like being happy. If I make a Matrix reference; "Being the one is like being in love". No pretense is going to have any impact. People may build ideologies or temples or social movements. All of these are nothing but psycho-spiritual prisons that spread like a cancer of the mind. No matter which ideology or movement or group or identity you choose, those things you pick are at best as real as a shadow on a wall. Picking circles and squares and fighting for them or even peacefully believing in them won't do you any good. Period. If a group is shown a cylinder and and the group splits in 2 calling it a Square Vs Circle....... there you have a group that is profoundly sick. It's a 7.3 Billion group.



Final and most important lesson at the end of this post is......



Happy steeming and stay Wise:-)

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Great article! I absolutely Love Krishnamurti. When I first started my spiritual journey I didn't understand what he was talking about. I came back a few years later and was able to understand some things. My favorite book of his, Freedom From The Known, took 3 readings over a few years.

My Social Media/Steemit name comes from Krishnamurti:
dmwh = Don't Mind What Happens


(http://www.quoteswave.com/picture-quotes/440847)

For more info: https://spiritualnotreligious.blogspot.com/2011/09/krishnamurti-and-tolle-dont-mind-what.html

I thought your name was just a coincidence with the quote. I actually came across after I went through some stuff and figured out most things on my own. It's almost like a wish I've made upon myself because I always try hard and go through a lot to realize something and then just a little later (or sometimes months/years later) I come across the same realizations of a different person. It's almost like I've wished to never come across anything that I haven't at least partially realized. The thing is that I wouldn't have my life in any other way.

Basically dmwh means to me that whatever happened just happen ED. Any psychological/spiritual thing that comes after is your own making. Poison will do just fine until you inject it calling the poison is fucking dangerous because poison fucking kills everybody. The less things you worry about, more fucks you are giving. At each moment you'll be giving away a piece of your freedom and peace.

For me DMWH is total acceptance of the present moment and , on top of that, my taking total responsibility for myself and my situation always. It is impossible to be a creator and a victim at the same time. A person must choose one or the other.

You are pretty much saying the same thing in a different dialect. Everything is within the realm of actions and consequences (dependent origination). Stuff happens and you deal with them. The way you deal with them shapes the future.

This is one of the longest posts I've read so far on steemit. It's 21:30 right now and I am about to sleep then I saw your post... I understand your premise of being alone is self healing. Yes society is toxic to a point, especially when conformity overtakes our values and individualises. But I have to disagree a little bit on the point that being alone is good. It is healthy to a certain extent. To be isolated from other people for a very long period can't be healthy. Please correct me if I am misunderstanding you. Taking things to extremes is always detrimental. I could be wrong

Regardless of my view concerning this, this is a very good post and is thought provoking. I enjoyed reading it.

You are mis-attributing the extremes. The two extremes are attachment towards society and resentment towards society. Being alone is the most natural thing. It's the moment where you can truly understand yourself. Think of the situation in terms of money. A person that is chasing money all the time will live in vanity devoid of meaning. A person who resent money would starve and suffer in bitterness. But money itself has absolutely nothing to do with these extreme situations. Money is just a medium of exchange which you use to make your life better and easier.

The extremes happen in the attachment- resentment dichotomy in the mind of the individual. Bit of both isn't the solution. You need freedom from both. As @dmwh mentioned, Don't Mind What Happens :-)

Hmmm. I understand what you are saying. Nice analogy with money by the way. So how would this sort of life be put into practicality in the world that we are living in?

Just live your life and go through your activities without attachments or resentments. On the surface level there won't be great differences. Psychologically and spiritually people would be without problems. Just think life without mental troubles or illness. Superficially people will more productive and will waste less time and live without vanity or rat race. People will work more on spiritual development and improving the world through technology. Crime would certainly go down too.

We would live in a world that is at peace and filled with prosperity and genuine care and development for our fellow man. This is so powerful. I wish for it to truly manifest in this world. We are the beginning of that change.

Hopefully we'd see that world soon :-)

Crossing fingers. We are cable. As long as we try.

I bookmarked this page as one reading does not do it justice....

Thank you. I wan't too much into making posts based on quotes. But now I think I should do more.

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