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RE: [VIDEO] 99.9% of People Are Good; Violent Conflict is Almost Always Avoidable.

in #religion7 years ago (edited)

That doesn't answer my question.

I get that you think things are terrible now, but the fact is that they could be much worse.

Anarchy will result in worse tyranny that can't be fixed through peaceful means. Meanwhile, my government has mechanisms built in to correct tyranny where it arises.

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Of course it does, people can organize against murderers or murder organizations, and kill them, people will want to have security against all slave masters.
When more people understand the concept of freedom and let go of their believe in authority, they will defend it. It's about numbers. There are now projects going on, and agorism is another way if government start to attack those peaceful people, I think more people will notice what the state is.

Well I leave you here, because you keep coming up with questions, I have already answered.
And you act as if I have to have an answer to all of them.
Which I don't

But you keep your faith in government, and force anyone to do what you think is the best idea. Do your best to stop government from growing and or becoming totalitarian. Then I live my life to the best of my abilities.

Peace.

Okay. That does finally answer my question: you say violence will rectify the situation eventually, and I agree.

My point is that government has the advantage of potentially resolving tyrannies by nonviolent political means. For all of statisms disadvantages, this capacity for political solutions is one advantage.

Thank you for entertaining my skepticism of your hypotheses. It's nothing particular to you or your ideals, just standard skepticism.

It's a change in the mindset. And it can begin as small as stopping a bully. Where they normally would get away with violence. It probably starts with bringing up children. There are a lot of children that learn only to obey, obeying is good disobeying is bad. Well sometimes disobeying is very good, the right thing to do. But if you are brought up with obeying is equal to being good, then the moment you get orders to do bad things you will not think, but just do as your told. This is the danger.
("you" is not you personal of course.)

My grandparents disobeyed the nazis in the second world war, I think it has shaped me unconsciously, and made me question a lot of things about wars, governments, tyrants, authority in general.
That questioning finally let me here. Questioning everything is a good thing i.m.o. Also questioning authority.
Questioning everything is skepticism. ;)

Things are terrible now tyranny is all around and closing in, western countries are turning into police- and surveilance state these are horrible developments.

I don't think there are mechanisms that work to stop the state from growing or even getting smaller. It may seem that "the people" can hold government accountable but it never actually happens, and they are very ineffective, if they are effective at all.

Politicians get away with everything. There should have been a lot of them behind bars.
Police gets away with everything. There too, a lot of them get away with violent behavior, stealing (asset forfeiture I believe it's called) even murder.
The militarization of police is really horrible.

What you are afraid of what might happen "under" anarchy. I see folding out in my daily life with governments.

You would have nothing to fear from me like I'm sure I have nothing to fear from you personal, in day to day life (in anarchy), but I have a lot to fear from the state, the order followers and the millions of people that support state violence against peaceful people.

To be effective against tyranny you need to use force that is true, But It makes no sense for me now to use force against the tyranny I live under. I have to find other ways. Maybe it comes down to me fleeing the country or continent. And all because I differ in opinion, not because I'm a danger to anyone. This makes me sad. Because I'm a builder I build things and then I have to leave that all behind. But what must be done must be done.