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RE: Steemit Roadmap 2018: Community Input Requested

in #roadmap20187 years ago (edited)

Priority no 1: Faster Account Creation

Priority no 2:

ReImplement "Promoted" feature, and make it efficient and attractive to users which now prefer to use voting bots.

Facts

  • no one is looking into "promoted tab"
  • "promoting tab" is not effective, therefore people are looking for more effective solutions

Solution?

  • Promoted content should be mixed by default into trending page
    • fact: artificially promoted content is already mixed into trending, by voting bots, but right now it is much harder to check how many of paid votes some article got
  • starting from 2nd or 3rd spot on trending, every 10-15 entry on trending should be filled by promoted content
  • with only a few spots on trending page, people will get proportional number of displays (impressions) in comparison to amount of SBD spent on promotion
    • this mean, that if @fknmayhem would spend 50SBD on promotion, and @steevc would spend 100 SBD on promotion, then article of @steevc will appear twice as often on trending page as article of @fknmayhem
  • even with spending just 1 SBD you will have a chance to be displayed on trending page. If you will have some luck and your content will be good, some whale will vote for you!

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Here are some additional ideas for the promoted section. https://steemit.com/steemit/@littlejoeward/fixing-steemit-s-post-promotion-killing-the-voting-bots I would love your thoughts on them

you are reading my mind! :)

And it looks like this problems bothers a lot of people. You have written your posts yesterday, posts with simmilar ideas written by @raised2b was written 2 days ago:

https://steemit.com/steemit/@raised2b/if-we-want-to-slow-the-use-of-voting-bots-we-need-to-meet-a-market-need-here-s-a-possible-solution

BTW, why not instead of burning those SBD, just convert then to STEEM and move to SteemPower of all SteemPower holders?

That would be additional incentive to Power Up, very easy to marketing: All revenue from promotion goes to long term investors! :)

"BTW, why not instead of burning those SBD, just convert then to STEEM and move to SteemPower of all SteemPower holders?"

Actually I think a better thought vs burning the SBD is to use those SBD to then pay developers to implement items faster and allow Steemit to actually evolve to a powerhouse. There is plenty of work that needs to be done and lots of talent on Steemit to get these items accomplished.

I think burning them and then using something like utopia.io to pay developers makes more sense. That way, we can decrease the supply of steem (increasing the value) and then separately, support the developers by voting for the best contributions. Promotion and development are separate things so I think they shouldn't be connected.

IMO the Supply isn't an issue, exposure is. You can have almost any amount steem out there if enough people want to own it the price will still rise. Using SBD that otherwise would have been burned means zero costs for improvements which can have an exponential effect on the value of Steem vs a minor effect in terms of reduced supply.

Yeah, this is a great idea too. Obvisouly there's a lot of us seeing the problem as it stands currently and there are definite solutions out there that would benefit our community as a whole.

I have seen 4 or 5 posts that all say about the same things written about the same time! Sounds like consensus to me! haha

I think that burning them would be about the same as your suggestion, but I like how burning them creates upward pressure on the value of steem benefiting all steem holders. Though I think your idea would work... it is just a more complicated way to do it. I'll have to think about it more...

I'm not sure if no one checks the Promoted tab, but I know I don't. I rarely find anything good there, so I tend to ignore it. The idea of incorporating it into Promoted is probably the way to go.
I was thinking on the side or top, where ads usually are, auto-scrolling slowly.
The point is to give people more incentive to use the official method of promotion, rather than bots.

I like this idea, reminds me a bit of Reddits ad system except that this way the whole community and stakeholders would benefit through the burning of sbd.

Hey there @noisy, I have actually posted an 2 in-depth posts about your priority number 2 with very similar thoughts and points. In 1, I diagnose the issue and in the other, as a proposal on utopian.io I determine the solution, which is in essence, what you have stated here.

You can find them here :

Growing Unhappiness with Upvote Bots on Steemit
Proposal for New 'Promoted' Function

I am working towards bringing as much attention towards the proposal as I sincerely feel it will bring positive impact upon steemit, the same thought which you have. I'd appreciate if you would have a look at it.

Thank you!

Oh, this is going to be major! The two main problems now are account creation and voting bots.

Yep, exacly what he wrote.