RE: If you don't use the bidbots then the shitposters will win!
Why can't the bidbot owners do the whole whitelist thing? Add each and every user that is permitted to use their bid bot? It is time consuming, I know. But since they are making money off of the bidbot, an investment in time is not too much to ask.
I don't use bid bots because too often 1 too many or 10 too many people enter right at the end and cause a loss for everyone......everyone EXCEPT the owner. The OWNER loves it when the bidders dilute it because then they get more for their votes than they are worth.
And since I know that nothing less than probably $20 or $50 ever breaks into hot or trending, using the bid bots will not help your post unless you risk a lot of capitol. For new users that isn't possible. They spend maybe 10sbd at most and effectively throw away about 20%....or more.
So....thank you for the satire, I will not be using those services.
90% of the time people use my bot they make a profit, even after factoring in curation rewards. If you think I'm the only one winning, I pay 35,000 steem a month, all the bids get paid back to cover rent. The people using my bot are making out far better than I, I wish I could use my own bot but I won't because of ethical reasons.
Bots are not supposed to be money printing machines, they are supposed to be promotion, but a lot better than "Promote" where you throw up to $300 to get on the top of promoted and get nothing back. Even if you get a loss on the immediate vote back, you will almost always make more in the end due to being on the hot page, our PreVote club, our daily Curation Digest, or the Author of the Day. Even without any of those value adds, having $1-$10 votes on your post will attract far more readers, followers, and votes than $0.01.
This concept that "having 1-10" will attract more- is a false assumption. I dont look at numbers until after i have read a piece and i dont find thrm based on numbers because i never look at "hot" or "trending" id love to have a steemian survey to see how ppl find posts and what makes them upvote because everyone thinks theyve got it figured out and that pretending to be getting rich is what makes you more rich. I disagree. i think it might boom you for a minute until ppl see that you sux. This is why whales do giveaways . "Oh now im helping you" meanwhile some of those sam ppl will flag you to nothing for having a dissagreement. Idk which bot is yours because i only use free ones. Frankly , i think actual advertising services are better than trying to understand bots as a creative. I just keep trying to do my thing and if serious shitposting prevails (cuz we all know that shitposting is a debateable term) then the site will tank and we all get screwed. So its YOUR job to protect your investment and my job to write and curate well.
This is the wrong way to look at using bid bots. You might not get on trending but you can easily get on the “hot” list for certain tags and it will get you more views and followers than you would have gotten without the bid bot.
The new followers will add more organic votes to the rest of your posts going forward so using the bid bots provide an ongoing ROI that’s hard to measure directly.
I did this when I started and it really helped me grow my following and post rewards much more quickly than I could have otherwise. I would very much recommend it for everyone.
I have TRIED the bid bots 3-5 times. And I have used minnowbooster 5-10 times. I have 500+ followers now, and get rarely 20 organic views out of the gate. In 7 days, maybe 25-40 organic views.
So I am glad that your channel grew and you are better off. But maybe the bid bots had nothing to do with that. Even you admit about knowing the bid bot's bids effects are "hard to measure directly".
So atm, still not buying it.
Blasphemer!!! How dare u speak against the emperor?!?! But all jokes aside...Same em3 same. But what really bothers me is if ppl from a non english soraking country are encouraged to use them. At least with msp we try to train ppl unlike straight bidbots who give no fux and just take ppls money and them flag them when the money goes to someone else....
That is an aspect that really needs to be considered as well. Thank you for bringing it up.
.....but what is soraking??
And as for speaking against the emperor(may he ever be praised)...I'm still not sure which aspect of his post is meant to be satiracal. So then, if I am even in disagreement.
And I think you meant "speaking"
I knew i missed a typo. I always spell badly from the phone
It's only the approach . He made a new bot for msp that has low delegation
Do you think this platform is only for English language or only for the people from English speaking countries? Sorry, I didn't get you!
No of course not.
I think that a lot of ppl online from non-english speaking countries have the odds stacked against them. Esp countries with low gdp.
Until they get here in hoards and make their own communities. It's always difficult for people in minority everywhere.
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