WARNING, potential scam: "Mogul - Build Your Invisible Empire"
My scam detector went wild when I happened so see this announcement: Steemit-Based Reality Game Announced: $10 million prize pool
10 million dollar prize pool? Ok... Where is that money coming from? No explanation.
Some guy is promising it while boasting how he has helped a lot of people make huge sums of money. So classic online get-rich-quick scammer style.
I've been teaching for years and I have several hundred successful students. Many have made more than six figures in just a few months. One star student even did $2 million in sales ONE DAY from the game I taught him.
Yes you really can make money by playing a game. If a newbie 71 year old grandma can do it, so can you.
On the high end, one "player" bought a $5 million Las Vegas penthouse from his game play.
Now come on, who can take this seriously?!
Then I check the comments. It all starts to make sense when I see old "friend" @michaelx aka @murderistic aka Michal Taggart in there, publicly announcing that he has been working with this guy.
@michaelx was involved in Banx, which somebody, who has been a long time in cryptoscene, might still remember. It was a pure ponzi scam but managed to be in top10 at coinmarketcap.com for a while.
I've written a couple of times about it:
The case of Banx & C-CEX
Banx was definitely a scam
And then I decided to google Matt Trainer. Interesting stuff pops up. Apparently he is a serial scammer, involved in different online and multilevel marketing schemes. He is even convicted to jail for some kind of mail fraud.
Conclusion
First and foremost: Don't give any money to people like Matt Trainer or Michael Taggart. You can be pretty sure that it won't be a good investment.
Be skeptical. If something sounds too good to be true, it usually isn't true. Especially when somebody is promising an easy way to make a lot of money.
Don't upvote scammers. Seriously, it sucks to see the Steem community giving them any profits.
I wouldn't give money to these guys. Had high hopes for Murderistic/Michael-x in BitShares and then again here, but those ideas never seem to go anywhere. At the very least, he has very questionable judgment in picking the people he partners with on these things. No, thank you.
Thanks for this info. Now, everyone tell the whales to remove their support for that trending article.
Doesn't feel great huh that we have to rely on a couple of rich guys and are completely powerless with 100s of us? Doesn't make any sense to make the bottom 99% completely powerless. Something needs to happen soon or SteemIt will never grow because people try it out and leave after a few weeks.
capitalism
I know , still the only way is to heckle people and get them to sell their shares, the problem is most of the good people are much more willing to give up
Dont give up! :)
oh I don't mind I haven't got much to lose, plus I already gave up a bit after dan and the experiment, but I took and break and I'm back giving up-votes :D
which reminds me, how is the whaleshares contest going, I have to check it again an do a revision on my entry and I haven't listened to your podcast :)
on giving up one person I miss is @krnel
I caught myself thinking, to give up but then I decided to focus on all the wonderful posts I read everyday.
:)
some music to go by with the endless steem stream :)
?t=365 so the third song, "You can't always get what you want" those crabs keeping us in :D
hahaha ! Good one!
I can't understand why most people can't see past these classic scams. One would imagine that eventually people get some skin in the game...
If it looks too good to be true, it always is hehe. Except for SteemIt, sort of :p
Well, in Steemit you have to work your ass off first, i know this the hard way.
yes, i remember well....your posts. and your caustic mouth.
Yeah but it usually pays more than Facebook on the first post, so it's not a scam ;)
The "my grandma made $7100 this month and so can you" ones are such obvious scams lol.
People fall for the same shit. over. and over. and over again
I work my arse off ....I don't know what you mean. Nothing comes easy
Same reason why people vote for presidents like Turd.
yeap
wish you could talk to Stan, he's currently blinded by diamond dust.
I have a lot of respect for Stan. He must really believe these guys have something special. Perhaps he's right, but their history is not encouraging.
This is exactly the case for me. I upvoted it because i trust stan and know he is trying to make big things happen for all of us...including steem. It is true that michaelx brings me back to the old Banx days...and if people recall inwould touch it or promote it with a 10 ft pole when it came out.
But i think everyone should watch what stan did out in hollywood. It was a great presentation.
This is not the first time. It should be very clear by now that cooperating with @michaelx never does any good for Bitshares but he just stubbornly keeps doing it.
I tried, failed after many attempts.
Thank you for trying. We cannot prevent others from sniffing toxic fantasy glue, but we can try and fail.
Exactly. With a $10m pool prize? With what money.. monopoly? It's a joke!
I appreciate your take on it. I thought it sounded interesting, so I went as far as resteeming it. My support of it was strongly influenced by @stan's comment in that post. I'm going to keep an eye on it, but I'll do so with caution and your thoughts in mind. I'm certainly not going to give them any money.
With all of you powers combined
I summon captain Abit!
It looks like @abit has upvoted it. Perhaps to counter the whale downvotes as part of the continuing Whale no voting experiment?
i think it was automatic. the post has been now nuked to oblivion
Agreed, that's what I meant :) An auto vote that counters the whale votes. Looks like it's almost down to zero $ now.
love this gif.
Well, it turns out that there may be more unsavory characters besides The Dollar trying to milk it here.
looks like we have a shit magnet
After interacting with Stan on that post in trending, i have to say, I am very disappointed with him. He appears to be completely blind and refuses to even look at Matt's past scams. He is not looking too trustworthy at the moment. check it out. it's the $10 million post on trending....UGLY
He is too deep right. Much like religion, he ain't gonna back up from his position. People rarely change their minds or admit their mistakes in the far of losing face. Yet, he demonstrated to have fallen in the same pitfall over and over again.
I flagged the darn thing. You know that I rarely flag..i think its my 3rd flag overall. all for DUH scams.
I decided to flag, even though I rarely do nowadays either. I stopped flagging Dollar after I saw his home enema and testosterone shot video......
This guy matt, though, seems really full of fake stuff....he just deleted his post....
thank you for the conversation and the laugh you got me to do :), come on aren't agenda driven people good for the environment :D they make it more interesting.
I think stan is shooting for the moon and really wants things to pick up, he's commited to his position and he's sure he can't make anything bad, which is a what preceeds a giant fuckup, I found his "lecture" interesting even if it was marketing speech, it was well presented, I'm not sure who the person next to him was, he also seemed reliable, I wish them well, but they are trying to bite more and harder stuff than they can chew, they are trying to outmarket facebook and become the new one, that never ends well, it's the same craze fb did with their shitty games and now we have stan trying to game the world, for it's betterment, it could go either way and it seems to risky to me, I like and respct what they are trying to do, it's just not the "natural" way at least doesn't seem like one. Still I'm not too sure what to think.
the enema is like self-flagging :'D
ha ha!!!! True! Are you going to Lisbon?
I sent a few flags Matt Trainer's way last night.
I wrote an in-depth post about how strange the stuff in his companies docs is: https://steemit.com/scam/@thekyle/potential-scam-mogul-your-invisible-empire-in-depth-look
https://steemit.com/steemit/@clevercreator/matt-trainer-isn-t-selling-a-game
Here you go :)
well u might enjoy this @samupaha:
https://steemit.com/bitshares/@chrisx/mogul-the-usd10m-dollar-reality-game-on-steemit-have-you-listen-to-their-webinar
A bunch of us were just talking about this today. A then a wild @clevercreator showed up (silly joke) -- but seriously, I am in the process of investigating because I do not want to see such a great community taken advantage of.
I was watching a video the other day, the gist of what I'm trying to say being, "A lie takes both people to work" so don't pitty someone, everyone who has a unreal perception of themselves can be manipulated, it's all smoke and mirrors, you want something, sure we can do it, we can own the world and make it better :) we sure will :D we only do good :) .. anyways words are used for both creation and destruction, and some people create their own destruction. I'm not sure what to think
Congratulations @samupaha!
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