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RE: Rewriting the story of Human Origins.

in #science7 years ago

I absolutely agree with you. Why is it so difficult to accept/believe that we were created by God and in His image. In fact, He formed us with His own hands and blew breath into our nostrils which give us life, when we die we blow out that very breath and it is the last we will ever do on this earth. Without that we are nothing, what makes a newborn baby alive? the same breath given to us from God, without that we cannot exist. We all originate from Adam and Eve. People would rather believe Darwin, maybe he was an Ape before, but definitely not me!

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If you die, and if you are righteousness to God. ask him and he will answer... (^_^)

The definition of God, is uncreated. He does not have a beginning. So if you ask the question who created God, it is as absurd as my friend asking me that my brother Tom gave birth to a child, is it a male or a female.

What about Tim, the God Eater? By definition, Tim is able to eat any God, no matter how powerful. Tim is also defined as extant and uncreated, so it must be true, because it says so right in the definition.

This prevents any creator God, such as the one in the Bible, from existing. Because if it did, Tim would eat it right away.

so it's not science then.
gotcha..
bye now.

What is this!! RIDICULOUS! I'm sorry but I won't sit here and have Darwin and science slandered in front on me. Stop attributing the beauty and complexity that is beyond our comprehension to some figment of your imagination. Believing in god only diminishes your ability to be able to accept and understand the universe around you as you use him as a scapegoat to explain away complexion in the universe we don't grasp. I agree with @everittdmickey this is not science!! You can not prove to me that god exists, but I can prove to you that evolution works, that physics works, that math, chemistry and biology are proven fields which predict outcomes in our reality!!! Everyone is entitled to their belief, more power to you. But if your not going to scientifically analyze the beliefs you hold, then remember to sometimes hold your tongue on matters of Science.

stolen valor huh?
pretending to be 'scientific'.

Common, the Darwin's theory hasn't been fully accepted by the scientific community. What is being taught in our universities is because they don't have any other option then to believe in Darwin's theory, even though nothing is proven yet.
If evolution meant only gradual genetic change within a species, we’d have only one species today—a single highly evolved descendant of the first species. Yet we have many. How does this diversity arise from one ancestral form?
Evolution is undeniably true if it means simply that existing species can change in minor ways over time, or that many species living today did not exist in the past. But Darwin’s claim that all species are modified descendants of a common ancestor, and DNA mutations and natural selection have produced those modifications, are not so undeniably true.

WHATTTTTTTTTTTT?????????????????????? No. Sorry to pull rank, but you obviously don't know what you're talking about. The theory of evolution is now confirmed as scientific fact, there is no debate about it. We now understand there were some inconsistencies with Darwins work, however he did some of the most accurate, influential and mandatory early work for the theory. I DONT KNOW where you are getting your information from but if all evidence leads to a theory, there is no opposing theory, and the theory turns out to be true in both practice and paper, there is no scientific reason to believe otherwise. This is what we observe with evolution. I AM IN UNIVERSITY FOR BIOLOGY, so please don't debate me on this subject unless you have REAL evidence that proves the opposite. EVOLUTION IS PROVEN. __________________________________________ It is also obvious from your comments you dont UNDERSTAND the concept of evolution and how it manifests. The entire idea of evolution is that there is no direction, speciation acts on all individuals of all populations of organisms causing different species to arise. There are multiple times of speciation that can occur and each lead to different times of phenotypic and genotypic change along with population sizes and realized niches. ___________________________________________ ___________________________________________ I will give to you that yes, Darwin's exact description of evolution in its details weren't all correct. Which is why we have modified our theory of evolution to fit what it is today. Claiming he hasn't been fully accepted by the community or that his theory is "pure conspiracy" is simply not true. It would be like attributing the same characteristics to Einsteins theories because he didn't properly describe Quantum Mechanics, just general relativity.

I can just advice you to check the Dean of your university and confirm whether, theory of evolution is a fact or still a theory and on which date theory has been accepted as a fact.

On what grounds? Multiple professors and acclaimed biologists alike have made and proven this claim. The "Theory" of Evolution proposed by Darwin has been taken into account when building the modern understanding of evolution which includes multiples types of speciation and mutation. Most of what I study also centers around Cladogenesis and Anagenesis, the structure of the initial speciation event. These terms were fist mentioned by Orator Cook in the early 1900s. Hugo de Vries, Gregor Mendell, Hardy and Weinburg have all contributed to describing the different mechanism we understand today. Modern examples of evolution have been observed, described and proven to have observable events linked to the speciation event. Try https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution. I dont need to ask my Dean, because my dean has put in a proper curriculum that lets me understand examples first hand and see how Evolution manifests in the real world, ffs some of this stuff I learned in high school.

dude wtf??? you can't even converse for yourself?? you think i'm going to watch a 12 minute video say something you can't put together?? I'm not watching this. Everything I say is from my own mind and knowledge, this either means your too lazy to put the effort into actually arguing for your religion, your beliefs and your mindset (which in itself is not virtuous at all). OR you just don't know what to say to defend me, so you had to google some video on atheist/evolutionists that SOMEBODY ELSE PUT TOGETHER because you don't even know how to defend yourself. This has me real triggered and is why I can't stand religion near science!!! It makes people blind and allows them to con themselves into thinking they are right no matter what. I didn't want to bash religion but I will be making a video next week.

Took me less time to write, for you to read, and respond than it would have for me to watch your video

OBSERVABLE EVIDENCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution. THIS WAS LIKE 50 YEARS AGO (idk I haven't even checked in so long). I'VE ALREADY GIVEN YOU ONE!!!! ARGGG!! you frustrate me.

I agree with your comment. There has been a cover up in regard to the creation, they don't want it to get out ! I believe in the bible and the account given -literally ! Fallen angels took the daughters of earth and had intercourse with them and produced the giants - nephilim. They had great knowledge and expertise and built many of the ancient worlds megalithic structures, like the pyramids etc. This is a fascination study in itself about the technology of the pre flood inhabitants of earth. God had to destroy these people because they had corrupted the DNA hence (hence the flood)
Angelic intrusion into the God's world had to be stopped (creating hybrids)... God took Noah as his family had not been corrupted and began again with him, the messiah had to come down through this un- corrupted line of descent. "as it was in the days of Noah so shall it be before the coming of the son of man" - giants re emerging again in the last days ?

breathing intensifies Could you read my reply to @hms818 please?

Have faith in God.
Sceptics say "show me God , or a miracle and I will believe in Him'
God says 'You believe in me and trust me and I will show you miracles and more'
The order here is important :)

No, don't show me a miracle. Don't show me a god. One of the main notions of our faith is the idea that god is the ultimate good, sees all, hears all. Then why do our people suffer? Why are children globally impoverished and while the 1% bathes in money, the greedy rule while the honest rot? I don't know what kinda of god could have allowed this. If we are build in his image, what must his character be to spawn such demonizing, horrible people, as are born every day. I have accepted my place in this universe and life and do not need some type of metaphysical power to justify my existence. This notion that you are waiting out for a miracle, praying on a god to answer your prayer and come to your rescue, it's bogus. Trust in yourself and create your own miracles, aspire to be the best you can be and not what you think god made you.

People suffer because of sin.(we inherit this nature)
God gave us free will to choose...we were not created robots to obey God.
We create our own suffering by rejecting God's offer of help.
Jesus died to give us life, to make a way back to God for us.
He died for each one of us - just believe in your heart and accept that and you will experience His resurrection life in you...it really is that simple :)

Thanks for this I have strong ideas based in science and human compassion and back you 100 percent

It isn't hard to believe that. In fact, it's very easy because it's a much simpler story. This is why it is more attractive to people without a background in the natural sciences to throw up their hands and default to creationism because it is easier for them to understand.

Some reading material for you:

https://steemit.com/scams/@alexbeyman/don-t-get-tricked-bro-how-to-recognize-a-cult
https://steemit.com/religion/@alexbeyman/jesus-predicted-a-first-century-return-that-did-not-occur
https://steemit.com/science/@alexbeyman/substance-dualism-the-creationism-of-the-21st-century

@alexbeyman Thank you for your comment and reading material. I will make an concerted effort to read it. I do have a background in science , in fact I have a Bcur degree @frieda

That will help you decipher some of the more esoteric contents of those articles then. Really it's only necessary to fully read the first one, the other two are supplemental and included in case you want more details after finishing the first. I do recommend at least reading 1 and 2 though.

Thank you, looking foward to read it and will give you feedback when I am done