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RE: Live from CERN - the magics behind the doubly-magic atomic nuclei [also in French: la magie des noyaux atomiques doublement magiques]
I call it it "The Large Hardon Collider" because if anything can make a stiffie on state financed scientists, it is huge amounts of other peoples money to finance their hobby of researching things that nobody else cares for.
I do not understand your answer. It is totally off-topic. I am not discussing the LHC at all. Mostly physics. Have you really read the post?!
Now coming to your point, the amount of money invested at the level of CERN is not huge, especially when you normalize it in terms of all contributing countries' budget. The CERN budget is at the end of the day a small percent of any state budget. And what is sent back to the society is not negligible and even larger than the investment. Check this for more information.
Finally, saying that nobody cares is wrong. You may not care about. Don't generalize. In addition, one may not see any application of the current research today, but what about tomorrow or after tomorrow. Let me recall you that without physics: no World Wide Web, no GPS, no hadrotherapy, etc. Think about it.
And even if there is no discovery today, check my post above and you will see that there is a gain for the society. It is not a loss.
Yeah whatever they are called those different accelerators. I just like the wordplay of it :-) ... I do not care if a budget is large or small, if it is funded with stolen money, from defenseless people who would rather spend their own money on their children´s summer vacation, than some parasitical state-educated state-funded geek hobby that brings nothing of value to the real world. Who cares if there is a Higgs bozo or not or if there are eleven string dimensions - if no scientist is able to determine if taxation is theft. No one knows if research is valuable if everyone is forced to pay for it. If I buy an antique thing for 100 dollars and resell it for 80 dollars, have I created 80 dollars worth of value ? ... NO, i have squandered 20 dollars of value
This is your opinion. Who cares about it? (I can answer exactly the same thing as you did). I can cite you a lot of people who have interests in science and knowledge. Knowing how the universe works is amazing, no matter 'you' find it boring or not. You also seem to forget that without knowledge and scientific development, it is a bit a way back to the trees.
Now concerning CERN, you exaggerate, as the amount of money returned to the society is positive and not negative (have you only clicked on the link of the post I as referring to?). So that your 80/100 USD comparison is not appropriate.
You do not seem to care at all about (fundamental) science, and for some reason you don't want to see fundamental science funded. Probably because whatever are the results, they will not directly improve your personal life? Fair enough. By the way, this is exactly the topic of the post I referred before.
No matter what I will say, this conversation leads to nowhere. So lets stop it here and spare our respective time.