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RE: Why I Disagree With The Strategy Of Exiting Facebook, Twitter And YouTube

in #socialmedia7 years ago

I'm afraid you are wrong, @caitlinjohnstone. You can't destroy matrix from the inside. If you do “take the revolution deep into the guts of Facebook, Twitter and Youtube” and become relevant, you will hit the wall of censorship. The best way is to leave all of that abruptly, immediately, and forever.

Everyone who wants to be a slave of centralized media, deserves it.

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I still would say stay in there and convince listeners to leave. keep your account as placeholder.
Once everyone has gone then reconsider if it is still worth to stay.
The thing with leaving right now is that you loose your voice in a time where your voice actually counts.
If all journalists leave abruptly that is a clear message, but viewers may see that in a wrong way.
The viewers should leave the platform first as a sign that THEY give up on bullshit. But with all those cat video's I doubt that that will happen. New children enter the maze every single day to look at the same cat video's.

Tricky one...

The thing with leaving right now is that you loose your voice in a time where your voice actually counts.

The thing is that you do not have a voice in a CENSORED SURVEILLANCE UNIT!

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I hear that deleted accounts tend to be reanimated there, and that people need to delete accounts over and over again, and never really get deleted. But merely flagged and made 'invisible'. The data never leaves the servers.
This also happened when Facebook bought Whatsapp. People who then opted out were also just flagged and disabled and not deleted. Back then it was a big issue that made it into dutch parilament. Yet a few years later the state started to work together with whatsapp and now even does free marketing for whatsapp by placing 'neigborhood watch / whatsapp signs' As the government chose Whatsapp as a nationwide system to rat on neighbours. And cause more conflicts then to provide actual solutions.

That i agree with, yet when you leave the platform then you no longer have the evidence of the bullshit they do personally to you.

So I agree to partially disagree. I see your point yet I agree more with Caitlin on thisone.

Maybe it would be worth to try both options at once

All leave Facebook and all focus on youtube. And then see what works best?

when you leave the platform then you no longer have the evidence of the bullshit they do personally to you.

When you leave the platform, you don't need to know about it any more. They are harvesting activity data. They can use (and sell) only the data from the last month. Older than that is predominantly unusable.

Whenever you @bifilarcoil, or @caitlinjohnstone, or anyone else log in there, YOU ARE FEEDING THE BEAST! Can't you see that?

We sure see that, but the issue is like this:
When a hand full of good journalist leave the beast, and all the sheep stay with the beast, then they are dogfood...

It seems best to have the journalsist aroound until such platforms are a bit more obsolete. As in no longer a danger to humanity.

Don't get me / us (if i mas say us?) wrong @lighteye we sure agree with you on the general thread. Yet it is a bit more complicated. We need a good strategy. And that may be different again tomorrow depending on new beachheads and fallen bridges.... I hope you can also see how that works?

BTW I don't have a Farcebook or Tweety account, and i'm not planning on going there either.

It's better to stay in the stomach and make the beast sick so it eats less sheep, then being crapped out and let the beast feed on sheep like nothing has happened.

Meanwhile I do very much appriciate your concerns @lighteye. I'm on the same side as you.

@bifilarcoil