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RE: Proposal: Refund 40K USD to make up for missing funds since 22.8888 - 원숭이도 나무에서 떨어진다
I lose 140 000 Hive from airdrop? Where is this real money now?
I lose 140 000 Hive from airdrop? Where is this real money now?
How can you lose something you never had? Boo boo, pick up your soother baby boy
fine than why is roelandp crying hes got the same problem from the other side ;)
Think about what you are writing!
really? Is that what you got?
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It was Roeland's Steem in his account. Are you dumb?
the few real people that follow tron are basically braindead.
Guess not, nice try!
So what´s if this is his money, why my money in my company account is a other way to look on, another way to handle it, are the old witness(es) is a better steemian than the guy who is bringing life to the chain which could not live without the content coming in from the Blog writers like me, remember one needs the work of the other without the other nothing will work out.
That´s the meaning of the word community.
So tell me why he´s the guy who can claim injustice for his side, if I´m not able todo so, not talking about the bitter gift you all bring to the steemit community.
Your comment makes no sense
Oh yes it make sense, nothing has only one side, evrithing has two sides in real life and in crypto !
There is no difference in me and him, or some other guys with frozen or captured account balances!
All is coming out of the original-chain Steemit its just a copy on the first day, not more and not less, just a copy!
But I see that many of the HIVE folks is not willing to accept this, anyway that doesn´t change the facts and what is true.
Did you have Steem before Hive was created?
Yes.
Did you have Steem after Hive was created?
Yes.
Did you have Hive before it was created?
No.
Did you have Hive after it was created?
No.
stupid game !
...and what about you ? Did you?
Nothing on HIVE would be there without Steemit, that´s the point Guy´s otherwise you all started will a zero ballance over there ;)
Hive would have never existed if Steemit would have never attacked Steem. It wouldn't make sense to bring attackers into the response to the attack.
and again tell me who starts to take action against what?
Right it was the old Witness-Crew in fear of a possible danger comming from Justin, so nothing what somebody can claim against Justin, he did not make the first step !
That´s the only point what counts, the witnesses runnign in front without any reason just some expectations not more, that´s no reason to freeze a stake what is not yours (not in Steemit and not in HIVE).
We are talking about diferent things, th eguys wo start the war are pointing out who is good and who is bad, and secure theire doubleling of coins what is ok, and they can decide that for me that´s not.
What a bull shit that´s the same when sombody find the key of your car and sell the car without giving you the money or the key.
If you really believe in what you write in your last post, ok do it, but this is not half the trueth, most of it is what you like to believe not what´s happened really ;)
If someone wants to give me something, must they also give you something?
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You didn’t lose anything. I am sure you were excluded and for good reason. You are dumb.
No, he is a product of the society that he was brought up in. The entire former eastern block is full of idiots who can't see past the tree line and those few that can are far and few b/n. Hence why I cherish anyone from a commie or former commie community and who has seen the light of day.
In his mind a totalitarian leader and totalitarian methods are absolutely "normal".
It is no wonder the idiots fail at everything they attempt.
One has to respect people such as the young lady in this video:
as for those who refuse to accept the truth about themselves, well, all they can do is keep up the death toll that their mentality has given humanity.
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LOL! Apply cold water, someone got burnt
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wow - so if people don't give you free stuff, then you're justified in attacking them? I'd say your a shitty person, but I blame the parents. I'm sorry nobody has cared enough about you to teach you decency
Technically someone steal his money, because he's money exists, but not in his account
It's not his money. How is it his? Can I decide that your money is mine and act cruelly because you won't give it to me? Feelings aren't facts. Not being given something is not the same as having something taken away
These dishonest words and actions aren't corrected with delusion
Okay, but who gives the money then? The answer is no one. Nobody on Hive gave you the money. Hive was a 1:1 copy to Steem, so you had Hive, just like you had Steem.
And these people had their money, until they disappeared from their accounts and went to another account.
If the stake used to attack the chain wasn't addressed, then the attack would continue. As Dan Larimer, the designer and creator said, we are supposed to remove the tokens of people that attack the chain. Attack means a single entity controlling multiple witness positions. The instructions of the creator were followed. Ignorance isn't justification. Replace ignorance with learning, not with ill treatment of others
First, Dan Larimer is an idiot.
Second, looking from the blockchain side, it was a steal
Thirdly, the whole HIVE project is quite controversial, because it means that you can manipulate the blockchain.
Good job arguing with these idiots. You know you are right, they know you are right, but they will never admit to it because they know what they did, and they aren't protected by CCP, and they risk legal issues if they admit it was a coin wipe and thievery.
You're basically talking to a wall
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Dan Larimer might be a lot of things but he is not an idiot.
Claiming so shows what an ignorant fuck you are.
Definitely a misuse of the word "idiot" if I ever heard one. The word was used in its context for being derogatory rather than descriptive.
If he wasn't an idiot, he wouldn't have made a system that was easy to attack. You can say whatever you want. If a DPoS system is supposed to require (at least some users think) blocking someone's account, it means that it is bad for a very simple reason. A couple of people decide who to steal money from.
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If Dan Larimer is an idiot, quit using his products
Looking from blockchain side? What is that supposed to mean?
ALL blockchains can be forked
Again, this ignorance is astounding. Why are you so against learning? Does it make you feel good to spew ignorance? Go. Learn.
He ran away from Steem like a rat.
I'll ask you differently - how many blockchain data are modified? Wasn't Blockchain supposed to be an immutable database?
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Incorrect. Hive was almost a 1:1 copy of Steem. But not completely. It excluded 350 accounts out of 1.3 million.
Universe truth : Every action has reaction. It may be late but not forgotton.
Hivemanis started action, steemians do reaction.
See from starting day 1 of drama, always action started by hivemians and reaction done by steemians. Hivemians also don't wants reaction. That's not fair.
I think we all have over and all loss by this drama. When this drama will end. I dont know....... but i don't like all this.
I am not happy with this action but i have to support.
See from deep heart( take deep breath, stay cam then think), you will know all.
Without community, No invester get success and without invester, no community get success. Both required each other.
I´m 100% agreeing with your comment, that´s what I´m writing since weeks, and all the old witnesses and their friends is telling me I´m dumb and ignoring fact that they had the right to do so, maybe needs more time to think over for them .
I don´t give up to see the light at the end of the street ;)
Thanks @don-t for your understanding the real truth before all understand. Thanks.
Your support to steem from starting not forgoten in any manner. You are the good and technical person. We can't forget your contribution. You are awesome. Thanks for all.
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That's so not right. Everything from my hive wallet was transferred to Steem.dao. so it got stolen. And for good. This money of yours is a soft fork that can be taken back. My stolen money on hive is gone for good.
Imagine, as your family elder dies, leaving a will sharing out their savings to all EXCEPT you, because you were a massive disappointment who did nothing but harm the family business.
Did your elder steal YOUR money...?
Of course not, that would be ridiculous. You never, at any point in your life, owned his wealth. As far as you're concerned, it never existed.
The problem you have is an emotional one, and I get it. You feel left out. But it's ridiculous.
Imagine going to a lawyer:
Lawyer: So... did you ever own Hive tokens?
You: No, but it's mine
Lawyer: On what grounds?
You: Cuz everyone else has Hive tokens
Lawyer: Please get out of my office
Right, first all my assets was seen on Hive too 1 to 1. I was denied access to the wallet, then everything was transferred to steem.dao. What is it other than robbery. I had never voted for witnesses myself. My proxy was Berniesanders. He had chosen a Sun witness for fun. I was therefore excluded from the airdrop.
How can something that never existed for you and was never in your possession be stolen from you? If the new chain was being created to have parameters in place to air drop funds to people that were not supporting the certain witnesses and you were one of them that were supporting them and were excluded from getting that drop, then you never got anything. You were never in possession of any Hive for it to be stolen from you. How hard is that for you to understand? Nothing was stolen, you were just not eligible for it.
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Not giving you an airdrop and taking away your money are two different things.
But some people are just too stupid to understand this, lol
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Are you seriously this fucking stupid? You own Steem. Hive doesn't owe you shit. You aren't entitled to shit. You are shit.
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Why did you lose 140 000 Hive? Do you invest in Hive prior to the Hardfork? What makes you entitled to receive the airdrop? Why do feel anyone in Hive is obliged to give you that 140 000 Hive? Who are you to dictate where the airdrop should be "dropped"?
If you can answer those questions in a clear, concise, and logical manner, I will give all my Hive to you.
You can’t loose something you didn’t have.
Can you get a fork from something that doesn't exist?
The fork was on an existing chain, but the STEEM token got suppressed, HIVE got created and distributed. Some people received the new HIVE tokens in same amount as the STEEM they had. Those who didn't receive the new HIVE tokens still got their STEEM tokens that remains on the other chain, so nothing was stolen from them, they just didn't get extra tokens.
This is similar to creating a brand new chain and importing old accounts and posts without the old tokens and distributing new tokens.
real hard fork gives everyone tokens, Steem investors and users have more rights than stock market users because they have invested time and money. No one will escape their karma.
You dont understand anything
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