Can you guys please STOP CREATING NEW ACCOUNTS until you can properly mitigate the exploiters that are creating huge botnets and siphoning rewards from the pool.
You want to talk about scaling and resources? Most of the resource problems we have around here are directly related to exploits/spammers...problems that lie directly at the feet of STINC, via recent the last few hard forks and account creation.
Correct the bad decisions you’ve made and are making that have caused/are causing most of the current problems.
This problem was already brought up to light recently, I believe that blocking new accounts creation is a poor decision, it would just throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Those who are in charge of accounts approval are making a terrible job allowing creating entire botnets and not letting real users in. They should be relieved from that task. Maybe there should be a new mechanism of approval.
Maybe it's better to make a new user create a post (like, obligatory introduction post, for instance) instead of making them wait months for approval. Then something like committee from known and established users would (cu)rate it, and make the decision if the user should be approved. It's a win-win for both parties.
One of the STEEM foundations is Proof of Brain, right? That's how it's done, no spammer can automate the process and those who can't put two words together will also be kept out. It's not like I'm hating all those Indonesian guys, writing about how happy are they to be on steemit with poor grammar and everything else, but they are not bringing any value anyway. There will probably be need for multiple groups for handling multiple languages, but that's another topic altogether.
I’m not saying all account creation needs to be stopped. I’m only asking that those created via STINC’s current process be halted. There is an obvious, major malfunction with their system that needs to be addressed.
This is akin to what governments typically do. They undertake certain tasks/functions, they perform these tasks horribly, resulting in many undesired but predictable consequences, then they propose “solutions” for the very problems that they have in fact created. And all the while, everyone else (in this case users, potential users, and investors) ends up paying the price for their inefficiency and complete ineptitude.
Accounts can still be created. But it’s plainly obvious that whatever methods STINC is using are inadequate and are contributing to the creation of large bot-nets that strain the current resources and siphon rewards from the shared pool. The solution is to shut down the failing system in place until it can be corrected so that further damage is not done.
Compounding the errors/damage when it can be easily avoided is irresponsible. It’s time that STINC acknowledges their role in the mess that they have created...and then they ought to FIX IT.
Agree. Centralized account creation is a bloody hell right now. As all centralized solutions.
Yea, agreed too
Yep, as someone that has been downvoted to negatives by on abusive account holder: @haejin
I would say there is a massive loophole that needs to be fixed before @steemitblog can be taken seriously
Yeah, I can see how competing merchants or businesses would get into silly downvoting wars and whoever has the more goons wins.
And then there are the trolls...
This is like asking a fat person to mitigate other fat peoples food intake ... or something.
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Not so recent, the last one was about a year ago, but I know what you mean.
Democracy working hard behind the veil of non-objectivity
for us.Yeah, that’s correct. I edited it.
And it should also be noted that they claimed to have HF20 almost ready to go when HF19 was implemented in early June last year. Ten months later...
For reference:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@steemitblog/proposing-hardfork-0-20-0-velocity
nah, first will be 19.4 ...appbase?
Or will they do both, HF20+appbase?
Because, well, why not introduce 2 error factors
Only two would be an improvement. We’re used to a minimum of five at once around here.
Maybe it needs to be an even number? :)
I thought STINC was using a Fibonacci sequence.
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Thanks for the feedback. We understand this is an important topic for many users and will be addressing non-scalability related issues in future posts.
Great. Looking forward to it.
But for the record: This is a scalability-related issue.
It's like when you have a design for a bucket.
Don't make a damn if the bucket is 5 gallon or 10 gallon when it is riddled with holes.
Better to worry about patching the holes before increasing the capacity of the bucket.
We are losing users and rewards to scammy bot masters.
Hope they get their priorities straight. I really want this platform to succeed.
So it is more important to make the system more streamline for the bots? Isn't that like removing part of your brain to make room for the tumor? I really don't understand this platform works.
Thanks for sharing! ;)
bad/greedy guys will be bad/greedy and you asking wont stop them lol its kinda what they do.
criminals break laws it dose not mean we avoid arresting them, something should be done about the abuse of the upvote system
Nice comment
I don't personally know much about any of these issues, yet, but the comment here by @ats-david certainly seems like it's worthy of a reply at least. Yes?
George Carlin explained this well some years ago, “it will never, ever, ever be fixed, it’s never going to get any better, don’t look for it, be happy with the crumbs you got, because the owners of this place don’t want that …”.
Can we please understand each other we have different views and reasons.
I am new here, but I seen a report somewhere that like 90% of the users are Bots, so he has more than a point if that is true, it seems they have co-opted this platform to enrich themselves.
I am also new. I thought an upvote drained power from your computer? So, if that is correct, then just don't upvote a bot, but assuming your report is true, then I'm probably wrong and it's some other technical mumbo jumbo reason. Or maybe astroturfing from competitors? lol, like facebook or something, or even the CIA who rely on corporations to collect private data.
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I guess it could be a million things besides greed. what report? Link would be nice. I assume they are allowed here. I wont believe you in case you are a bot ;P