RE: I Can't See How You Don't See It
From the white paper, which I encourage you to read or to find contention with:
However, direct payment is inefficient and not really viable for content creation and curation. The value of most content is so low relative to the cognitive, financial, and opportunity costs associated with making a payment that few readers choose to tip. The abundance of free alternatives means that enforcing a ‘paywall’ will drive readers elsewhere. There have been several attempts to implement per-article micropayments from readers to authors, but none have become widespread.
Pay walls aren't innovative at all, and on a transparent blockchain it will never happen. You say you don't want us to compete with those "pay to consume" soon to be antiquated systems, but that is, exactly what putting paywals is.
You can ask for donations, but asking that everyone begs for them is silly.
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I'm not suggesting we replace one for the other. I'm suggesting adding features that will empower creators as well as provide new opportunities for developers.
This is demonstrably false. Twitch, youtube, Patreon, these are all businesses that have donation mechanisms and they're extremely successful. It doesn't matter that the content is free, people want to support their favorite content creators and they do. This isn't a thing we need to debate about, it's just a fact. Steem is bigger than just articles. Maybe that's the sort of thing that people would have trouble getting donations for in the past, but honestly I haven't ever seen it attempted in a way that's actually user friendly and straightforward. It's probably out there, but I've never seen it.
Again, a paywall wouldn't be a replacement for our current system, just additional tools for authors. It would be up to the author to decide what to give away for free and what to charge for. Again, to say that this doesn't work is ridiculous because it's exactly what people are doing on Patreon today. With all their drama Patreon is still doing MUCH better than us.
Now if it's a technical limitation of a transparent blockchain that's another matter, but I think a solution could be worked out people really wanted it, which I think they would.
Having a "Donation" button as an option allows an authors content to go beyond the 7 day payout window... no expiration on timeframe it can be monetized. I have discussed this with several of RocketEx clients and they love the idea!
Sure, because it's so much work to copy paste a name and hit send. What's your button gonna do? Cut out that dreadful copy pasting. So much monetization. Much monetization.
Putting a donation will not bring any donations, FYI.
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Why have an upvote button on the post, why not just have the upvote apply to their account with no visual feedback?
Because it's not a direct donation, far from it. It's a chance, as you might get this much reward, because it's a game, because it encourages content creation, because it doesn't discourage people to consume, because it doesn't cost anyone mental energy to consider costs / rewards, because it offers people a chance to consider how much each item is worth.
Why do people on Pateron hide how much they make?
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Why is it hard to copy and paste a name to donate? , or have a Pateron account? Or any other type of Recepticle?
Why is it hard to put a link to a wallet for donations?
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Would adding a "Donate" button be so bad? Anyway, we have paying RocketEx Condenser customers who want it...So, they will get it! Have a great day!!
Lol who said it would be so bad. I said that paywals don't work, in regards to bad things, but I said that donation buttons are a gimmick, that no one will donate because of the buttons. That doesn't mean they're bad.
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Please consolidate your ranting into a single comment.
None of this really deserves a serious answer because you're not actually interested in facts. You obviously just like hearing yourself talk, but I'll give you one serious answer then flag the rest of this crap.
First off Patreon.
They didn't before, I imagine because users requested it. I remember there's a girlwho paints anime characters and she makes a ridiculous amount of money. I think that would ultimately work against the creator. If someone is making 23k every two weeks everyone who sees that will think "She's got enough money, I'm not going to pile on" At least that's what I'd think. So I imaging it's actually the opposite of what you're thinking.
Anyway, I seriously doubt you care that you're just spouting nonsense, but on the off chance you care to try reality for a change, check those links.
Lol what links. You just confirmed that no one makes money on Pateron, as I was say, and you literally used the logic that donations aren't difficult but people might not realize that they can donate. OK, you win, donation buttons are another option and they help people realize that they can donate, because they had no idea that they could send steem to the content creators that they like.
#awesomeinnovationlol
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That's really awesome to hear! I can't wait to see it!
This is demonstrably false. Twitch, youtube, Patreon, these are all businesses that have donation mechanisms and they're extremely successful.
Not false at all. None of those make any bread and butter, the enormous ammount of things there are free, they are not successful one iota because of donation mechanism, donation mechanics on those platforms have paid out exactly how much especially in comparison to how much free content there is and can any of them stand next to steem who has made bread and butter for how many?
You know what is both user friendly and straightforward, what everyone who takes donations does.
A link to one of those begging sites or an addresses for any number of wallets. And I think donating steem itself couldn't be more straightforward.
Before you go on a long rant demonstrating you have no idea what you're talking about, do a google search. I'll do it for you
https://www.google.com/search?q=patreon+top+creators&oq=Patreon+top&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.4462j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
People don't make bread and butter on Patreon??? You obviously don't know anything about this so I have no idea why you'd even feel the need to comment. I don't mind defending my position on something or someone checking me, but you're just spouting nonsense.
The vast majority of people who are content creators for a living are able to do that because of Patreon. It's literally the #1 site in the world for that.
WRONG
The money doesnt come, ONE CENT, because of Patreon, it comes from the content that is posted on a YouTube, on an Instagram, on any number of Blogs, and there, NOT ON PATREON, there is a begging link to Patreon to donate. Patreon makes bank in Fees And The cut on top.
Nobody goes to Patreon to browse for shit. The ammount of work that goes into marketing and posting to other sites that make money on that content to get people to click the Patreon link, only to sit there and tell me that people make money on Patreon is ridiculous AF.
"the vast majority of people who"
. Stfu with that unadulterated lie.
YouTube eclipses Patreon, and 99% of the traffic to Peetown is from. YouTube, and how many people have a Patreon and you want to sit there and tell me that they represent the vast majority of content creators that make a living from what they do, and they do so because exactly what the fuck does Patreon offer? An audience?
Retarded As Fuck.
Double wrong
Every content creator in the world has a Patreon and makes millions per minute. It’s a scientific, algorithmic, fact.
Lol yeah good one
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"the vast majority" lmao.
O shit, nobody makes shit on Pateron.
Let me see what content is on Pateron,
Said no one ever.
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"uuu there's a donate button, it just occurred to me that I didn't realize that I could donate to a starving content creator/support my favorite blogger until I saw that button"
Said no one ever.
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Muh hard to donate without a donate button.
Muh pay to read or pay to view will make muh content.
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As for those paywals, how many people use them? How many people pay?
How is that at all comparable to steem, compatible or competitive with how steem works, meaning that we can add all the gimmicks in the world, 1001 buttons but none of that will help produce more content and their continued absence will not stop anyone from supporting content.
Seriously, google. Learn to use it.
Lol, yeah, too bad that you did not see "Nobody makes money on Pateron", like the 4the search result.
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