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RE: Introducing Smackdown Kitty

in #steem7 years ago

Too much to read and no concise summary. Are you basically saying that you would soon reduce the incentive for people to upvote their own comment? I thought Steemit was a decentralized autonomous platform, even Facebook allows users to like their own comment - how come the decentralized, autonomous, Blockchain-based Steemit social network is going to be restricting its users from promoting their own stuff?

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I have added a summary now, and some ideas about how to make her action more gentle, and to switch to upvoting for any user she has previously flagged if they stop doing it. It will only be a 1% up vote but it will look good on their posts.

If it was just promotion it wouldn't be a problem, it's the self rewarding and ultimately self appraisal that is the issue.

There's also the promote button for exactly this purpose!

How about allow self upvotes on comments but but rewarding anything for that? This articles is not very defintitive on what measure @smackdown.kitty would take to address the "problem".
Also, people are used to promoting comments since it attracts others to do same - giving the comment a capitalist instrument: if your comment is worth is them promote it or let other promote it.
Basically no one's comment may be better than another person comment. Comments are simply opinions, if my comment/opinion is not good and I upvote myself, I would end up being the only one to do so, eventually the best comment might win.
Also about pardoning high power users who upvote themselves simply because they may have a "sense of social etiquette" is not a fair assessment. Its the new users after after all who need to gain something from the network, other wise you would limit new users while allowing existing users to engaged in the self enriching scheme you are try to address.

Maybe you're unaware of the potential scale of self reward here though. Look at this reward for self voting, and on through the thread.

This articles is not very defintitive on what measure @smackdown.kitty would take to address the "problem".

This is a fair point. I usually advocated not quite linear rewards, but not quite squared, so a non-integer power between the two might have been better.

But a more radical solution may be required. I would like to hear brighter minds discuss this, but perhaps disabling self voting at the blockchain level is an option.

I think completely flat rewards is a good thing, and I am a big believer in continuity - I don't want to see this new reward scheme rolled back because the previous situation was unacceptable, by so badly excluding new users from seeing any reasonable rewards. Automatically the old scheme was prejudicial against new users. As a veteran I can say that it wasn't until I was over 1000SP that it started to look decent. Now, it's too high, if people 100% upvote their own. And this is taking away from what they can upvote to others also.

Indeed, disabling self votes entirely seems to make the most sense

Perhaps in a world where you can't create a new account and transfer to it in 3 seconds, with the same level of technical skill required to create your initial account in the first place?

I am editing the head post to put the TL;DR summary. I am considering some options and I will make them into comments in a subsequent thread to get votes for how to do it exactly.

There is now a more concise summary and the strategy has been refined to be more gentle while retaining it's provocativeness.