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RE: Don't "Vote for Witnesses", your vote does not matter.

in #steem8 years ago (edited)

oh, and by the way, it's great the way you make the argument that there's no likelihood of a sybil attack being used in your analysis of how "the community" would vote for witnesses, then use a sybil attack (aka all those badgers) to upvote your post (oh, sorry, I meant your "supporter"). Yeah, no one's gonna game the system that way.

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I did not ask for badger votes, I did not ask for any votes. I expected this post to be hidden, as it is potentially damaging to people.

You seem to think I am someone, but I guarantee you I am not who you think I am. I watched these people vote on my post after @complexring resteemed the post when it was 2 hours old, worth 2 cents, and had 5 upvotes. Check the blockchain if you don't believe me.

Also, I guess you were not aware that there is no longer a sybil attack that can occur with regular voting. The hot algorithm was fixed. You being unaware of this and assuming badger is sybil attacking, only further proves my point about your dissociation with steem.

I only re-steemed because it has been a few days after the fork, and I wanted to bring up that the team has not declined voting rights yet for the Steemit account.

I am ambivalent as to whether or not the employees should or should not be able to vote for witnesses although early vests to their accounts would make me more side with the 'no voting' position. And this issue should be discussed if we want to be able to talk about 'decentralization.'

Regardless, this does not exclude them from powering down, transferring to an exchange, transferring to an anonymous account, and then repowering in the course of 2 years to avoid scrutiny. In fact, I think that even doing a power down and then transferring to an account with a specified route is acceptable. The 2 years allows more distribution of stake beyond the initial mining.

Until then, any notion of 'decentralization' is a moot point by the fact that early insiders were rewarded vests and are subsequently voting.

Also, it's not a sybil attack when those badger accounts were fairly bought off the market and there is no way to immediately combine power from multiple accounts. That's a completely inaccurate assessment of the badgers voting.

Disclaimer: I have @dan and @dantheman's votes, but I never asked for them.

I only wish you were as dumb as you appeared, but I realize you're a pretty clever if scummy person. My reference to a sybil attack isn't that it actually games the rewards (there is no such sybil attack against steem), it's to a social attack against viewers: it makes people think your post is very popular because of the number of votes even though a large number of the votes comes are coming from a few individuals.

My view is that the count of votes should be removed because it is misleading information, and easily manipulated including by accounts that aren't so obviously affiliated as the badger accounts. Failing that fix to a security and usability bug in the interface, viewers need to be educated to not be so misled.

And I have to laugh at this comment "You seem to think I am someone, but I guarantee I am not who you think I am". At this point, you've pretty much admitted in some of your other comments that you would be recognized if you posted with one of your main accounts: why would you need to create another account if your "main" account isn't somehow a recognizable account (e.g. having some significant stake). Given that, you have no way to claim it's not one I don't already know.

I agree, this post smells fishy... I am sure there are hidden interests behind it and we would all be surprised if the poster revealed his/her real identity.

I agree the "community" voting was the weakest part of this post. However, voting on posts with multiple accounts is not a sybil attack and has not been since the "Hot" page was fixed. Voting rights vest with SP even if it is split up for example on mining accounts, and carry the same to slightly lower weight if voted together as compared to a single account with the same SP. The owner of the badger accounts is doing nothing wrong by voting with all of them.