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RE: The definition of vote collusion @cryptopassion et Al.

in #steem7 years ago (edited)

Did you at least ask me how we can work together, as you copied past my message? First of my questions would have been :

  • What is your content / Do I like your content / Is it an interesting content from my point view -> If yes, I can support your project / If not we won't work together.

How many automatic upvotes are done via STEEMVOTER without being read at all? Will you downvotes all the articles also?

Yes I support people because I know which kind of content they are publishing and they are supporting me also because they like my content. There is nothing imoral or forbidden with that.

What about this article Transisto :

  • @newsflash 100%≈ 50.05$ (your sub-account)
  • @tamim 100%≈ 46.68$ (your sub account)
  • @transisto 100%≈ 34.27$ (your main account)
    On a total of currently 180$, you self upvoted for at least 120$ ! I hope you will downvote yourself soon also!

From where is coming all your SP? Publication of articles or investments done when Steem was only some cents? From where do you think you have the authority to harass other users because they have more success than you? You are using the excuse of the plateform to just harass people here since months...

You are just sitting on all your fortune and playing here like a dictator. When will the downvote function been reviewed to avoid that kind of attitude. It allows to dictators to make their rules on that platform which should be safe from the censure, except for illegal things.

I suggest you to do the same analysis for every author in the trending page and see the results. I hope you will downvote also all of them with all your accounts as most of them are very similar to me.

And yeah by the way, So I'm powerfull enough to pump the SBD... wow such accusations... Because I can analyse it and predict it I would be the initiator.... If I can only do that... so a shame to see this kind of anaylysis. Again on a normal plateform, you would be in justice case for such accusation without any proofs. But at least, you do a good promotion for my analysis as indeed, I was right, the SDB increased a lot and lot of my followers have earnt nice money.

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How many automatic upvotes are done via STEEMVOTER without being read at all? Will you downvotes all the articles also?

Yes I would.

On a total of currently 180$, you self upvoted for at least 120$ ! I hope you will downvote yourself soon also!

I upvoted my post because I want to bring attention to it. I also happen to post about once a week, or when I feel like I want to share something valuable. (Not as a business like you guys are doing)

How much easier is it for your internal accounting that you consistently post exactly 6 posts a day?

Most people using auto-voters are speculating for the curation reward based on voting pattern (which is also very bad!).
On the other hand you guys are upvoting each others 1:1 as if you all agreed your content was equally valuable.

From where is coming all your SP? Publication of articles or investments done when Steem was only some cents?

If it make any difference to you, I brought it at a much higher price than it is now in BTC terms.

When will the downvote function been reviewed to avoid that kind of attitude.

Anything better to propose?

So I'm powerfull enough to pump the SBD... wow such accusations... Because I can analyse it and predict it I would be the initiator..

That you can predict that currency designed to be pegged to USD will pump much beyond 1$ using charts only is hard to believe.

I did not know you were @tamim, the boldest example of self-voting I consistently refer to, as the second best paid author on Steemit in August 2017. I must say knowing this definitely changes how I view your actions, and this post.

"That you can predict that currency designed to be pegged to USD will pump much beyond 1$ using charts only is hard to believe."

Simply being amazing isn't a crime. If you have evidence of involvement in a pump and dump, I reckon you'd have presented it. Making the accusation without evidence is bad form. I note you did not actually accuse, merely raised the possibility, but clearly @cryptopassion feels accused.

I will just say that if @cryptopassion has the skill and capacity to pump SBD's to 12x their value, I should be following them. That's a lot of ability, and if they did forecast it to their circle, a damn profitable friendship.

I will say this circle jerking is sleazy, and I avoid most of the accounts mentioned in the graphic because I associate them with moral hazard, but then, I find self-voting verses from the Koran no less so.

Srsly. Coulda used something less inflammatory to monetize than that!

The code permits such monetization as @cryptopassion and crew practice, and as you have as well. I cannot call it criminal, but I cannot call it without moral hazard either.

I won't do it. Were you more concerned with altruism and protecting the community from it, you wouldn't either. Stone, throwing, glass houses, and all that.

I do thank you for this post. I learned a lot I did not know, and should.

Thanks!

I'm not Tamim, I convinced him that using his SP for the betterment of Steem as a whole would be more profitable in the long term than self-rewarding. He's a busy person and doesn't have time to dig the undergrounds of Steem to find good initiatives to support and fight abuses.

Welp, Imma shut up now, rather than continuing to display my ignorance.

I shoulda just lurked moar.

That'll teach me =p

Thanks for being concerned and asking questions. There was no way you could have known, he didn't make a specific announcement on the blockchain about it.

hey transisto can you look into brittuf? he is always in trending with shit reports 200$ posts

What about the upvoting that you do of the copy and pasted zerohedge stuff on the @zer0hedge account right at the 6th day mark right before it pays out likely to avoid detection by others? Pot and kettle?

And what about the self voting you used to do on your @julianita account? Was self voting allowed then but not now? Serious questions.

You gat him where you want him to be

You can speculate all you want but I don't think two wrong make a right.

@julianita ?

I would like be able to analyse more cryptos and do more publications.
But YOU guy, are already complaining about 6 and downvoting quiet often them.
So what is the goal to do more?

  • I try to limit myself to 6 but even with that it is never enough for you.
  • After that you asked that I stopped to use the tag #fr, my mother language I did it
  • After that you asked that I upvote myself for only 3 publications on 6 by day => I did it
  • And now you are coming with new requests, new complaints, new attacks

I repeat it and confirm it, you have a dictator attitude here and you have specific targets here and don't touch to friends and some other people who are too much powerfull for you.

All this must be known also.

I would like so much do as much publications as @haejin to share my knowledge with everybody.

But you are on me since weeks now and it becomes impossible to provide all the content I would like. So yeah you are doing censor on a platform which should be free.

And you are able to do that, not because you are a good author, but because you invested money at the good moment when STEEM was very cheap..... and as you use often the expression : This is also bad....

You can analyse as many crypto as you want, You've been posting exactly 6 for months and I didn't flag or say much of anything back then.

After that you asked that I upvote myself for only 3 publications on 6 by day => I did it

In my view you are still upvoting yourself on those because you have a 1:1 vote collusion partnership with these other people.

I would like so much do as much publications as @haejin to share my knowledge with everybody.

How is this any relevant? Who is @haejin ?

Your last defense was @kingscrown is also doing it too so go after him. What's next?

BTW Kingscrown get ~1700 views for 200$ while you get 40 views for 100$ (99% of it collusion).

Just have a look on his posts

@haejin is also another crypto analyst that you will call also scamer when he is saying some cryptos will increase.

Another user which is doing 10 publications per day while you are complaining about my 6 publications, another user who is upvoting all his publications.

But yeah as I said, you just focus on some people and ignore or have agreements with others ;)

You will have lot of work soon my friend because you have unrealistic expectation and the day you will lost your power of downvote due to a code change, I hope you will still be able to find interest in your life...

But yeah as I said, you just focus on some people ...

Point to me to another vote collusion scheme as large and obvious as your and I'll be off your back for at least a few days.

I don't have to defend myself, you are not the owner of that platform, you are not the creator of it, you are not the developper of it, you are just someone who was lucky enough to buy at the good moment and who is taking pleasure now with downvoting people you don't like.

It is all, dictator is really the good word. The goal of your life becomes to stay here and downvote people you don't like.

You're trying very hard if you don't have to. Anyone owning Steem is to some extent owner of the platform as they have the power to decide on it's fate. I only lost BTCs so far with my steem investment, not sure how that makes me lucky.

Hopefully purging reward suckers like youself will reallocate the money to more deserving and contributing people and will increase the value of Steem.

Everyone dictate to the extent of their stake, that you think my stake deserve the title of "Dictator" is your pejorative.

As you use our private convoy, I will use it also.

Only one sentence from you is enough to show which person you are :

cryptopassion : you are not there to make the rules....
Transisto : I don't make THE rules I make my rules

This becomes really a problem on that platform but I'm sure it will be solved one day and with the help of your attitude ;)

Yes I said that and that's not making a controversial statement as much as it is explaining you how steem functions.

Regarding kingscrown, he has gotten a free pass because he is friends with the right people, including you apparently.

He never had that many views compared to rewards until he started getting on trending every single day because of guess what, VOTE COLLUSION by him and his friends.

A blind eye has been turned there though, and don't even get me started on his "quality" vs. reward ratio. Probably one of the worst on the site tbh.

You and I both know that if a post doesn't get on trending, the views number is way down, so that is just a terrible argument to make. Cryptopassion never gets a post on trending, put one of his posts on trending and watch what happens to his views/rewards numbers.

Nobody has flagged @kingscrown more than me, If I upvoted him a few time lately but we might still be 10:1 Downvote:Upvote.

I agree with you, trails need to be broken.

Views don't come only from steemit trending, They also come from outside promotion. Which is what I'm trying to promote and incentivize with my top of Reddit challenges.