RE: Are the tribes the solution for steem or are we dispersing the force?
Tribes tend to heal the steem system that has been poisoned to its core.
Let's take how difficult it is to even have a successful blog on Steem now: even if you manage to have 100 STU (which is among the best I've seen recently) you're only in for what... 10 cents. Nice, but you won't be feeding yourself with that. Tribes have tried to get away from the control that's been pressuring Steem's price so far, and in some ways, encourage bloggers there.
Then there are the downvote whales. By creating their own tribes, many have thought of it as a way to get away from the whales that downvote you just because you dared to say something against their own ideas. It's not a complete censure (posts are still there) but it's a moral attack & even a personal attack in many ways, that depress the newcomers who arrive in steem.
So I'd say that we're not dispersing, but in many cases, dodging problems. It's a good thing that people react & regroups... however, I feel like it's also dangerous because it kind of means we have somewhat abandoned making the steem blockchain a friendlier and fairer place.
Hi, could you tell me a little more about those downvote whales? Sounds a bit worrying and, yes, that's a kind of censorship, very much like YouTube demonetizing creators just because they express certain opinions.
Are the downvote whales guided by a particular ideology? Leftist progressive?
If any ideology guides them it would be a "myself-ology" if they catch you having ideas they don't have, they will downvote you. There's also the downvote bots, which put you on their lists for reasons that you don't always know. Never happened to me personally, but you can see these bots on some people's comment, they will just downvote because they have the power to do so.
This Post is quite right.
This one explains how to fight it
The simplest search on google gives lots of results of "flag war" like the ones I've put in in the example. steemcleaners is a "grey zone" and some are already thinking of doing downvote bots for after HF21... so meh, that's kind of scary to me.
Well, the situation is really worrying, it is necessary to know more about it, I really had not read anything about it. Thanks for the info.
While it is worrying, it also explains why there are so much communities & tribes, and why circles of "people who know each other" are being formed. The natural response to A-rank bullies is more often than not to group with people who have equivalent power.
So more often than not, these tribes start with a whale that decides to protect their own friends (normal) and extend his protection to people who are like-minded to him/her.
In many aspects, it is a really human attack, and very human response, and why I say that tribes heal the system that has been poisoned. By selling their tokens, the tribes acquire the steems and power necessary to "counter-vote" the downvoters.
Now I'm worried about where that leads, but it's also not that bad. Because both downvote bots, and counter-measures will need to buy steem to escalate one against the other. Means that the buying pressure will rise.
Thanks for the info and the explanation. It's very very important and I knew nearly nothing about it. !tip
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Hi, it is indeed important, but as I've said just above, tribes are an effective system that counters this. You may see my full response above if it can give you a bit of hope :)
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Hello dear @djennyfloro, thanks for your comment. I think a great analysis of the current situation of steemit and maybe you're right.
Your approach makes a lot of sense, it is possible that the creation of the tribes is an escape valve against how sufficent it is to have to create content, do the best, make an extraordinary effort and not see it re-reflected in the rewards, that is frustrating, although it seems that we forget the fight, however, it is possible that the fight has evolved.
Thank you very good contribution!