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RE: Moving to hive

in #steem7 years ago

I appreciate your rather smooth approach here. I really do. But if you've made 50K in 2 months... And others have earned anything between 10K and 500K which I've seen people talking about.. All thanks to haejin.. - Why are 90% of his followers still minnows without investments on Steemit and why does he not invest millions of dollars himself, to become a powerful whale... Instead of asking others for their 100 SP?

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Some people just like to take and not give back, the reason why I bought some steem and powered up is to support @haejin and others on this platform, I came here in august but did not power up until October, it took me a while to understand the platform and how it works, and until now I still lack in many ways. Many @haejin followers think that you look at a graph for a second, buy the asset, expect magic to happen, without applying the attached tutorials in his posts, these are the investment-less minnows, some give up before making any, and some will eventually invest, like myself, two months later :) . As for @haejin steem power, I wonder the same, I would turn my self into a whale if I had the chance, and I do not know why he isn't powered up with full RPM as I would definitely do that. I hope this post answered your question, Peace be with you.

That's a good answer man :) I recieved an extremely uncomfortable comment simply because i commented on one of Bernie Sanders posts, but yours seem to be well argued.
I have nothing against Haejin, but i simply think that other people spend so much work, that goes unnoticed, so i think that the money could be better distributed, if we want to see the continued growth of steemit :)

Peace out man, hope you're doing well

thank you :) Peace

And that's an answer I'd be willing to reward. Thank you.

I can totally understand that many people cannot afford to invest. That is why I still haven't been able to reach a dolphin or whale status. If I could afford it, I would invest. It's that easy.

However, like you said. Followers of his are claiming to earn thousands of dollars per month. 10K. 50K etc. Yet, most of them have not bought any Steem power at all.

  • I think that is very odd.

And that he himself haven't bought a couple of millions worth of Steem Power is strange. With that power he would not have to ask others for their SP and he would be able to fight berniesanders with his own SP for starters.

On top of that, he would also be able to spread his wealth and support others, by upvoting their content and comments and he would also be able to reward himself even more.

But he doesn't seem to care about those things. I might be wrong here, but it seems to me that he is selfish. At least when it comes to Steemit.

And for being such a rich guy who doesn't care about the money, he shows the exact opposite when he is picking a fight with berniesanders.

The whole haejin-scenario is weird and strange. Everything about him and this scenario just feels odd.

Thank you for a superb comment though. I appreciate it! (That shows that there are haejin followers out there with a brain after all).

I'll be honest . I have mixed faith in Steemit after seeing Bernie's manipulation of the Steemit. It is pretty clear in the terms of sevice that bots are not allowed.

Since the uncertainty surrounding the platform and Haejin's use, I've been exclusively tipping him directly to incentivize his posts. That's how I encourage it, and I will continue as long as he makes calls.

Read the entire sentence. In context there. Robots are not allowed if you are using them to extract data from the website.

That doesn't say you can't make an upvote robot.

Everyone is using bots. Most whales and/or dolphins have multiple accounts. 85% of the users pay for votes... Dolphins, whales and minnows.

I can't see why that makes bernie a bad person.

He's complaining somebody is gaming the system while gaming the system. It doesn't really matter to me (nor should it to you) that other people have bots, as that's not justification for what is going on. Haejin has fans. Call them whatever but I am one of those people and have seen 0 evidence that Haejin is using bots to game the system to the degree Bernie does, and it's clear to others that his success came from the use of bots and clearly not to the contribution of the community via posts of substance (probably why he hates on @haejin so much)

I have never said that I have anything against haejin and I've never said anything except that I don't personally believe that he is worth an average of $280 per post, 10 times per day. (When 90% of that money comes from 1 user).

That's my opinion, and I don't try to defend @berniesanders. (Trust me, he doesn't need my help.)

And I am still being flagged, by you and others... - Why is that?

You (and I'm not talking about you specifically. I'm talking about all the poeple who've been flagging me due to this haejin/bernie drama) are entitled your opinions and you demand that I should listen to what you say... But all of you ignore the things I say because you love haejin.

  • That's BS & a terrible approach.

I'm done with pathetic people like the ones who've been flagging me today.

I love Steemit and I have no problem to discuss and/or debate things. In a civilized manner. Until these flagging people starts to treat me with the respect I deserve as a person, I won't have any more discussion with such people.

Thank you :)

@phuzz , You still don't understand Steemit. @haejin was pulling down 6.7% of the reward pool when @berniesanders started the call for flagging his rewards. It has nothing to do with if @haejin makes great content or @berniesanders makes shit content.

It has everything to do with balance in the system. One user simply can't be allowed to take that much of the reward pool. Period. We now have half a million registered users and around 40,000 active ones. at that 6.7% level it would have only taken 15 @haejin's to drain the reward pool dry. As long as he keeps getting those kind of upvotes he's going to keep getting those kind of flags. It can be no other way.

Thank you for clarifying, but I would only ask, can we blame Genesis mining or a few other mining empires for making Bitcoin mining so hard? They mine such a huge percentage of the block that mining Bitcoin, or almost anything now for that matter became almost useless. This seems like the nature of the blockchain, which ironically is easier to manipulate and control than a centralized System. Steemit seems like it is built this way, I would assume that applying reward rules would be the only way to control this, because if either @haejin or berniesanders are gone, someone else is going to fill that gap in the very near future, there will be thousands of haejin and berniesanders to come that this whole platform will be abused and destroyed. So unless @haejin and @berniesanders could come to terms in a way, or @ned would somewhat wake up from slumber, I see this is an endless fight, and would involve much more whales and content providers to come. Will be the curse of Steemit.

To correct you it bitmain that controls bitcoin mining not Genesis mining.
The curse of decentralization is it prone to centralization but the fight to stop it stands and will continue

well probably, but that was just an example to explain the current situation, keep fighting, it is an endless void.

I dont believe that he was pulling down 6.7%
more like 0.6 at best
I checked as soon as i saw the post making that claim