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RE: HardFork 21 is About D' Vision

in #steem5 years ago

Multiple Visions

It's great to delineate the different visions like this. Without doing this, it's hard to argue for or against certain proposals.

Like, if I think Steem is a utility token, but the person I'm having a dialog with thinks it's obviously a content discovery/social token, we're not going to see eye-to-eye on how inflation should be allocated.

We Need Each Other

The utility folk should remember that the content/social side is what makes Steem unique. You can launch an app that has zero content/social features, but that app can still benefit indirectly from the content/social features (e.g. talking about the app, forums, or just recognizing other players).

We Can Ignore Each Other (to some extent)

But we also have the flexibility to ignore each-other. The content/social folks can do what they want with inflation and I can power down, for example.

This approach is a little frustrating because, in a way, we're working against each-other in some areas. But I don't think this is actually a real problem in the long run.

If the content/social folk fail to communicate their vision and goals to the general public, they can just languish in their failed experiment while simultaneously, the utility folks get to work.

Camps

There are probably more than three camps. And this is not to say that the one camp can operate just fine by completely ignoring the other camp(s). But if something is being mismanaged, it's not the end of the world either.

I also believe the utility camp can be justified in making fun of the absolute crazy garbage coming out of the content/social camps. Those guys are crazy.

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Yeah but if you are in the utility camp, there's no point in having anything allocated to rewards at all.

The camp I'm in is about first seeing if we can get rewards to be better allocated by changing the incentives, and barring that, jumping on the utility bandwagon and banishing rewards in its current form.

And someone already said it, but the content camp is what makes this platform unique, so it doesn't make sense not to try to improve it. We tweaked it two years ago, let it sit, and never re-evaluated the system until now.

I suppose that's not entirely fair, because some in the utility camp likes the way that you control exactly the proportion of the rewards pool that corresponds to your stake. In that case it makes sense to abolish downvotes and let it sit like that forever. I don't have much faith in that particular system though. May as well make that SPS driven. Anyway I'm just rambling now, maybe some of these ideas make sense, maybe not.

Yeah but if you are in the utility camp, there's no point in having anything allocated to rewards at all.

Na, then Steem would just be another Tron. I can see "utility maximalists" make the case that rewards are a total distraction. I happen to understand that belief, but I also disagree with it.

Having said that, I would like to see the content side make a better case for their fiddling. Otherwise I feel like just telling them to:

steem does not need their below average content creators (if they were good they would be earning money elsewhere with thousands of followers). now they are just taking the steem from witnesses and big stakeholders

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What? :) Most of them do not have or earn enogh stake to do that at all.

So who is supposed to buy the steem that the witnesses and large stakeholder sell? For what reason?

The numbers work, but only if we catch a sizeable chunk of western union and wally world's remitance business.
A zero cost, 3 sec coin is hard to beat once crypto moons.
The trick will be holding on until then.
Clearly stinc has no intention of serving it's current customers beyond tmvp level that strings out the bag holders.
(It would serve us right after telling the truth about them all this time for them to adopt a very very long view, they have their millions whether steem goes to pennies, or not.)

!dramatoken

It's a rough time and I think everyone is feeling stressed. It is also easy to feel disappointed by the recent direction.

I feel pretty disappointed in our direction since ned took over,...


You're upping the drama to new levels! Have a DRAMA.

To view or trade DRAMA go to steem-engine.com.

interesting. so you get new acc in but then you make a system where they get nothing so they get pissed off and buy all the steem so they could upvote themselves. genius 😁

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some of them are earning money else where and have realized that there may be something to this crypto world. They are trying it out and we get the benefit of their decent content creation.

Any good content creators that I know, and I know a lot of them, diversify. Crypto is another way to diversify. Make their work less valued, then their willingness to diversify into crypto falls with it.

sorry, my sarcastic mod was maybe not too obvious to people that don't know what i do and think :D so most of them :D