I just find it interesting that this was initial attitude right after the exchanges got involved. I was sidelined from the slack you're referring to, after expressing opinions against the impending softfork. I realize that some people just thought I stopped talking.
And I also realize that, whoever it was, felt that apparently scrubbing that slack was also the right decision.
No you were removed for sharing screenshots and information out of context to help back up your made up narrative... something you have a history of. Plenty of people continue to be in the slack who disagree with one another.
As far as my response.. this was after days of you and individuals spinning lies and trying to pretend like Justin and Tron were here to hug you and there was no valid concern. You are entitled to your opinions, but also it’s acceptable for others to tell you to fuck off when you use lies.
As I said, I stand behind those words still and think your continued lies are absurd.
The rest of my thoughts, about the important stuff, can be seen in the video of this post and future ones to come.
I publicly shared a couple paragraphs of what I personally wrote in the slack. In doing so, I removed any mention of the specific plan to softfork and replaced it with a general "if the witnesses do something drastic before they should" instead.
If I were cynical, I could argue that I was invited to the slack in order to keep me from talking about the general notion of preemptive action in public. And when I wouldn't stop speaking out against it, I was retroactively labeled as leaking information. <- If I were cynical.
I remember when you were added, it was due to your work in coding and some valued your input. It was an open invite group, anyone could add who they wanted.
The quote you shared involved other people’s words too.. but I had nothing to do with you being removed, so can’t really advice on that.
As far as your tactics... I don’t really care, I’ll I’ve seen are lies from you and don’t feel like spending the energy to figure out why that is. Do as you wish, but others may wish to tell you to fuck off.
The quote you shared involved other people’s words too..
You must be referring to this:
In the slack (which is probably now scrubbed) there were people who mentioned atomic swaps.
But I talked about it too before entering the slack.
but I had nothing to do with you being removed, so can’t really advice on that.
And yet:
No you were removed for sharing screenshots and information out of context to help back up your made up narrative
I paraphrased my concerns and hinted that I wasn't the only one who had these theories. Then I was quietly sidelined because, perhaps the narrative was inconvenient.
And now I'm being continuously called a liar for something that was scrubbed from the slack.
Nothing was scrubbed, free slack.. old conversations go away automatically. That wasn’t the quote you shared that was expressed as another time where you were sharing sensitive information out of context.
The quote doesn’t even matter at this point imo as your actions after have been very clear... as far as being called a liar, I think you have made plenty of posts full of lies to give anyone enough reason to call you such. I wasn’t even referring to what you leaked when I said that tbh.
Like I've always said, they always knew what they were doing. It was clear that there was a misunderstanding. But a select group of people decided to move to protect their own interests.
"... it’s acceptable for others to tell you to fuck off when you use lies."
Well. Let's consider this then:
"I don’t agree that casting equal votes somehow makes the playing field unfair.. and this all is completely irrelevant from my post tbh."
Since that's a response to my comment discussing how Tron took over governance of Steem, which is the point of the OP, and in reference to the 30x magnification of the weight of Tron's stake, which facilitated it's takeover, the above quote from you is factually incorrect.
You then state:
"I don’t misunderstand simple math.. I just have this horrible fault of actually understanding how the blockchain works. And for the record never attacked you here..."
After you flagged my reply, which is clearly understood as an attack.
No I flagged your comment as I didn’t agree it should be on the top and was over rewarded. It’s not an attack, it was using a tool provided by the platform we are on... and it wasn’t even a full downvote.. if I wanted to attack you it would seem fair to use my full downvote and any trail that follows.
I’m sorry that you are offended I don’t want to debate you on a topic I see as irrelevant, and then you decided to then insult me... but quite frankly I still think the idea you are so desperate to discuss is irrelevant and based on complete ignorance. So 🤷♀️
Who said I was offended? Your assumptions are revealing.
I am not saying you're a liar only because you attacked me by flagging me. I'm saying you're a liar for claiming 30x weighted stake is equal votes, and that you understand the math and how blockchains work.
All three of the latter things cannot be true, and you know it, so you're lying.
I am not offended by that. I oppose it. I expect it from you, and your trail. Making such false statements knowingly is why this post is supported as it is by those that have profited from this 30x weighting of the stake of your supporters.
Was freezing Justin Suns legal property, illegal. NO spin, No narrative.
The community deserves an answer to that question.
We honestly cant even debate what occurred without clarifying that point.
Witnesses choosing to decline specific transactions is very normal, and they have every right to do so. Especially if they feel the security of the chain depends on them doing so.
Steemit inc stake that has previous agreements attached to it is very different than “Justin’s private property”... so I understand why you keep screaming that, but if you can’t even acknowledge the difference then it’s clear you are just attempting to troll and not worth talking to. As we are discussing a dev fund that was acquired in a very specific way and that makes it unique.
Now... go make your own post and stop spamming mine.
SOrry , not spamming wanted to make sure you where aware of my question. YOu replied and i will only comment in response to your comment. Understand the answer to these questions change everything.
So , no they did not get legal advice. Got it. thank you
Actually, no there is no difference. Steemit inc stake had no legal agreements attached to them. The witnesses would have produced them by now. So your saying ned doesnt have to pay Taxes on the stake he sold to Justin? Really?
I was sidelined from the slack you're referring to, after expressing opinions against the impending softfork.
As you’ve already acknowledged, that’s not why you were removed.
And I also realize that, whoever it was, felt that apparently scrubbing that slack was also the right decision.
It was a decision made by multiple people and as far as I know, nothing was “scrubbed.” It’s a free Slack, so it’s possible that comments were eventually archived after a period of time.
As Justine has already noted, many people disagree with each other in that Slack. But you already know this...it just doesn’t happen to fit into your particular narrative.
I think many shared your exact same concerns regarding the soft fork, yet it was pushed through anyways, and the worst case scenario played out. It may have been slightly about protecting the chain, but make no mistake it was also about the top witnesses keeping their jobs.
I was wrong. I had no on-chain evidence, but neither did they. I am myopic to on-chain evidence for protecting the chain. I don't apologize for that.
I thought the community would take the attack on DPoS seriously. I thought Tron wouldn't respond at all. Or, I thought if they responded, I thought they'd work within the protocol (because there did exist a technical response that did not involve getting the exchanges involved).
I initially thought that when the exchanges did get involved, they only used Tron's exchange balances, which would have been slightly defensible, but the math didn't work out once you investigated that. By the way, a cool-headed response to exchange funds would have been to assume they only used Tron's balances and tweet that Tron must have 90% of the liquidity.
Witnesses who want to keep their jobs is a given. I don't blame them one bit for that. But this "dev fund" they're fixated on seems to be the linchpin to the entire platform, which is hilarious.
Which stake is that? The Steemit inc stake? As you realize the community has countered that.. correct? The fact that Poloniex customer funds are still being used and the idea that we have 20 sock puppets nodes being voted is the issue.. not that “witnesses want to keep their jobs”.
You seem bitter and unwilling to look at actual facts.. the Steemit inc stake is being countered. So I guess I’m confused what your grief is exactly.
And I still stand behind those words.. you and your lies can most definitely continue to fuck off 🙂
I just find it interesting that this was initial attitude right after the exchanges got involved. I was sidelined from the slack you're referring to, after expressing opinions against the impending softfork. I realize that some people just thought I stopped talking.
And I also realize that, whoever it was, felt that apparently scrubbing that slack was also the right decision.
No you were removed for sharing screenshots and information out of context to help back up your made up narrative... something you have a history of. Plenty of people continue to be in the slack who disagree with one another.
As far as my response.. this was after days of you and individuals spinning lies and trying to pretend like Justin and Tron were here to hug you and there was no valid concern. You are entitled to your opinions, but also it’s acceptable for others to tell you to fuck off when you use lies.
As I said, I stand behind those words still and think your continued lies are absurd.
The rest of my thoughts, about the important stuff, can be seen in the video of this post and future ones to come.
I publicly shared a couple paragraphs of what I personally wrote in the slack. In doing so, I removed any mention of the specific plan to softfork and replaced it with a general "if the witnesses do something drastic before they should" instead.
If I were cynical, I could argue that I was invited to the slack in order to keep me from talking about the general notion of preemptive action in public. And when I wouldn't stop speaking out against it, I was retroactively labeled as leaking information. <- If I were cynical.
It would be an interesting tactic if true, right?
I remember when you were added, it was due to your work in coding and some valued your input. It was an open invite group, anyone could add who they wanted.
The quote you shared involved other people’s words too.. but I had nothing to do with you being removed, so can’t really advice on that.
As far as your tactics... I don’t really care, I’ll I’ve seen are lies from you and don’t feel like spending the energy to figure out why that is. Do as you wish, but others may wish to tell you to fuck off.
You must be referring to this:
In the slack (which is probably now scrubbed) there were people who mentioned atomic swaps.
But I talked about it too before entering the slack.
And yet:
I paraphrased my concerns and hinted that I wasn't the only one who had these theories. Then I was quietly sidelined because, perhaps the narrative was inconvenient.
And now I'm being continuously called a liar for something that was scrubbed from the slack.
Nothing was scrubbed, free slack.. old conversations go away automatically. That wasn’t the quote you shared that was expressed as another time where you were sharing sensitive information out of context.
The quote doesn’t even matter at this point imo as your actions after have been very clear... as far as being called a liar, I think you have made plenty of posts full of lies to give anyone enough reason to call you such. I wasn’t even referring to what you leaked when I said that tbh.
Oh well ... c'est la guerre
Like I've always said, they always knew what they were doing. It was clear that there was a misunderstanding. But a select group of people decided to move to protect their own interests.
Well. Let's consider this then:
Since that's a response to my comment discussing how Tron took over governance of Steem, which is the point of the OP, and in reference to the 30x magnification of the weight of Tron's stake, which facilitated it's takeover, the above quote from you is factually incorrect.
You then state:
After you flagged my reply, which is clearly understood as an attack.
So, you're lying.
Fuck off.
No I flagged your comment as I didn’t agree it should be on the top and was over rewarded. It’s not an attack, it was using a tool provided by the platform we are on... and it wasn’t even a full downvote.. if I wanted to attack you it would seem fair to use my full downvote and any trail that follows.
I’m sorry that you are offended I don’t want to debate you on a topic I see as irrelevant, and then you decided to then insult me... but quite frankly I still think the idea you are so desperate to discuss is irrelevant and based on complete ignorance. So 🤷♀️
Who said I was offended? Your assumptions are revealing.
I am not saying you're a liar only because you attacked me by flagging me. I'm saying you're a liar for claiming 30x weighted stake is equal votes, and that you understand the math and how blockchains work.
All three of the latter things cannot be true, and you know it, so you're lying.
I am not offended by that. I oppose it. I expect it from you, and your trail. Making such false statements knowingly is why this post is supported as it is by those that have profited from this 30x weighting of the stake of your supporters.
I do want you to fuck off. You are.
Good.
Sounds good.. please mute me and get off my comments then. 👋🏼
Was freezing Justin Suns legal property, illegal. NO spin, No narrative.
The community deserves an answer to that question.
We honestly cant even debate what occurred without clarifying that point.
Witnesses choosing to decline specific transactions is very normal, and they have every right to do so. Especially if they feel the security of the chain depends on them doing so.
Steemit inc stake that has previous agreements attached to it is very different than “Justin’s private property”... so I understand why you keep screaming that, but if you can’t even acknowledge the difference then it’s clear you are just attempting to troll and not worth talking to. As we are discussing a dev fund that was acquired in a very specific way and that makes it unique.
Now... go make your own post and stop spamming mine.
SOrry , not spamming wanted to make sure you where aware of my question. YOu replied and i will only comment in response to your comment. Understand the answer to these questions change everything.
So , no they did not get legal advice. Got it. thank you
Actually, no there is no difference. Steemit inc stake had no legal agreements attached to them. The witnesses would have produced them by now. So your saying ned doesnt have to pay Taxes on the stake he sold to Justin? Really?
Witnesses don't have a legal obligation to run any code.
Witnesses don't have
A legal obligation
To run any code.
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As you’ve already acknowledged, that’s not why you were removed.
It was a decision made by multiple people and as far as I know, nothing was “scrubbed.” It’s a free Slack, so it’s possible that comments were eventually archived after a period of time.
As Justine has already noted, many people disagree with each other in that Slack. But you already know this...it just doesn’t happen to fit into your particular narrative.
Upvoted so everyone can see how @justineh made you her little bitch.
Oh goodness...
Good girl.
Calling other people "Pussy?"
Look in the mirror, simp.
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This is from a week ago.. not really sure how it’s popcorn worthy
Like fine wine, think drama often gets better w age. 🥂
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I think many shared your exact same concerns regarding the soft fork, yet it was pushed through anyways, and the worst case scenario played out. It may have been slightly about protecting the chain, but make no mistake it was also about the top witnesses keeping their jobs.
I was wrong. I had no on-chain evidence, but neither did they. I am myopic to on-chain evidence for protecting the chain. I don't apologize for that.
I thought the community would take the attack on DPoS seriously. I thought Tron wouldn't respond at all. Or, I thought if they responded, I thought they'd work within the protocol (because there did exist a technical response that did not involve getting the exchanges involved).
I initially thought that when the exchanges did get involved, they only used Tron's exchange balances, which would have been slightly defensible, but the math didn't work out once you investigated that. By the way, a cool-headed response to exchange funds would have been to assume they only used Tron's balances and tweet that Tron must have 90% of the liquidity.
Witnesses who want to keep their jobs is a given. I don't blame them one bit for that. But this "dev fund" they're fixated on seems to be the linchpin to the entire platform, which is hilarious.
Because if that stake is allowed to vote, they likely don't keep their jobs, simple as that.
Which stake is that? The Steemit inc stake? As you realize the community has countered that.. correct? The fact that Poloniex customer funds are still being used and the idea that we have 20 sock puppets nodes being voted is the issue.. not that “witnesses want to keep their jobs”.
You seem bitter and unwilling to look at actual facts.. the Steemit inc stake is being countered. So I guess I’m confused what your grief is exactly.
Sure, that would be up in the air, but not a certainty, especially now that the community is less apathetic.
But even before breaking up the apathy, I'm not convinced the "dev fund" would have lead to absorption.
Scroll of Truth hahahahaa