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RE: 10 Simple rules for Steemizenship - for discussion

in #steem5 years ago

Hey I only found your post today : (
I really love it.

I sincerely hope the issue of flags is not closed.
To me, it is a pathetic way to carry on, and all this talk about disagreement regarding rewards is pure bullshit. : )
The only motivation for this carry on is childish playground domination strategy. The amusing aspect of that does not escape me : ) and i am sure you derive some amusement from it as well.

I think the only hope we have is for the price of Steem to plummet too 1 or 2 Cents NZD

When that happens, hopefully it will give the true Steemizen's the wake up call required to give the Thugs, wannabe rulers and NSA agents of Steemit the flick for ever.

If the price did fall that low i may even be tempted to revert to our original plan.
That is what I hope for anyway so don't tell anyone.

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Thanks for the feedback! I actually think that most of the downvotes are well-intentioned. To me, the problem is mostly in the way people perceive them. We can tell people not to take it personally until we're blue in the face, but it still feels personal to most people.

The other side to that, though, is that there needs to be some other incentive (like a second price auction style of mechanism) penalizing people for overvaluing a post and encouraging people to vote honestly. IMO, the last two years proved that you can't just disable downvotes - without any other changes - and expect that posts are going to be ranked in any sort of rational manner.

Thanks for your thoughtful response @remlaps.

We are being herded like cattle to use Steemit as a blogging platform exclusively.
This is the least interesting use for the blockchain imho.
The reason they want this is obvious, if it is just a blogging platform and is the only way value is created they can sell the false notion of ''over valuation''

The most interesting use for Steem imho is real world community projects where we can reward people for actions taken in the real world. For that to occur we need to change some things.

Change the way the top twenty witnesses are selected. Stake based witness selection is clearly not working. I could go into a long rant with that one.
and remove flags altogether just for starters.

This place is way more powerful than just a place to blog.

and as far as flags being primarily about posts being over rewarded, why is every comment I make flagged ? it is clearly not about the large rewards I recieve!

In fact I have been told by several people that i am on ''THE LIST'' not to receive any rewards. The fact that their is actually a list that people obediently follow should tip people off that there is a Chain of Command operating here which has it own agenda

Yeah, I don't know the history, but I don't see anything in your comments on this post that deserved to be downvoted, so I can't explain it. That also falls under the honest voting heading. IMO, over-rewarding and over-penalizing are both big problems for the health of the blockchain and for the overall satisfaction level for participants. I think that over-penalizing might be the worse of the two.

I agree with a lot of what you say here, especially the advocacy for non-blogging uses for the blockchain.
but I also like the idea of stake-weighted voting, and I wouldn't support removing downvotes without putting some other mechanism in place to disincentivize every voter from just blindly maxing out their own rewards.

I'm hoping that as Steem-engine and SMT tokens evolve, they'll make room for all sorts of experimentation with rules and incentives in order to discover all the different use cases, and also drive improvements in the quality of people's voting.