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RE: Help Fix Steem's Economy!

in #steem6 years ago

To shed some light on how I see things, hear me out.

Someone can spend money, rent a fast car and a nice suit for the weekend. Another can own the same fast car and suit. Put them side by side. One is a fake, the other is real. The money doesn't mean shit at that point. The fake is acting like a big shot and the real deal has nothing to prove. It's easy for me to see the difference and my respect goes to the real deal by default. The fake loses all respect in my mind because they spent money with the hopes of manipulating me. I don't trust frauds. They never change. They'll try to do it again if I let my guard down. Respect cannot be purchased.

As soon as you converted that comment into a paid promotion, I'm reminded of cheeseburger commercials and how they try to make the grease sound good for me. They can't tell me the truth because they spent money to make it look good, not bad. They're trying to manipulate me.

You tried to manipulate me by placing that money there and I base that conclusion upon the words you shared with me here today, not just on how I feel about things in general.

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Thanks for your explanation how you see at it I highly appreciate it

I just see it as promote it for better visibility. Is it manipulation? Well probably... I want it in front of more eyes. For me it's an interesting experiment and I don't see it as trying to buy someone's respect. I want more discussions on a post :D

Is it taking advantage of capitalism and pushing something in front of people? Yep... Is it ethical? Is it asshole? Perhaps, idk really... But I think that it's important important stuff get's better visibility, and I only do it on stuff I feel matters a lot

Same as I boosted one of Ned's comments here the top one:
https://steemit.com/steem/@teamsteem/why-i-advice-against-linear-reward

Do you know curation functions in the same way, organically, and places actual popular opinion near the top? Yes, you know that. Have faith in people. What's popular opinion under one post might not be as popular under another post. It all depends who's saying it, who's got their back. Do you know @lordbutterfly is now accusing me of participating in witch hunt style flagging? Blowing it way out of proportion after I had already explained my reasoning to you since you were the one responsible. According to your logic, that was not meant to be a reward, you were simply using an exploit in the UI and a bit of money to move something up. Lordbutterfly should not be upset about losing 'rewards'. He did not earn anything. It's not unusual though to be treated like a thug when using the downvote option, which is unfortunate. Nobody complains when 5 people vote up but 5 people vote down and holy crap look out it's the end of the world. I also acted alone. Made my own call. Planned on downvoting the comment before I even noticed others did. I also see others came after me and I had nothing to do with that.

I already saw your paid upvote to ned. I am omniscient (LOL). That I will not flag because rewards were declined, nothing was pulled from the reward pool, no resources were wasted.

Do you understand how the reward pool works? I assume you do. I'm certain you may not agree with my stance but can at least see how it could be considered a waste of resources.

Boosting shit posts to trending is an extreme waste of resources. If all of the money was downvoted off of every post that got boosted today, our published posts would go up in value. Did you know that? I think that's how it works. That's how it used to work. I don't think that part changed.

"It's not unusual though to be treated like a thug when using the downvote option" yeah the downvote really makes people respond in a discussion since it really becomes personal for many. I can see both your side and @lordbutterfly side and I think both makes sense but sometimes it can get a bit heated.

But I rather have it heated than no power at all. YouTube decided to flag my account today on YouTube for just making a video How To Download a YouTube video lol... Now this is a power game where a content creator has no power at all. I assume with Google that you may not even be allowed to Download your own videos. There is not even a real human you barely can contact. Just a faceless organisation. So no matter how crazy Steem get's at least it's not Google. I like how they try to make it look more crazy by making it all red and fill up your whole screen.

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Yeah it's nice you said that about people can decline rewards and still get's a boost. Since then you both get no leech on the reward pool and you get visibility as I saw with that comment boost.

Now this is a power game where a content creator has no power at all.

That's not entirely true. The content creators are given options there and can agree to follow the 'rules' within the terms of service (whatever they want to call it), or not. People don't like faceless entities telling them what to do but if someone said, "This is my house and there is to be no smoking inside the house," people are usually fine with that, even if it's a perfect stranger. Can't really blame Youtube when you did make a decision on your own. Like it or not, that's their house.

Yep it's their house, I don't agree with most complaints as people that are very ungrateful towards YouTube. Of course they need to appeal to advertisers making them happy and so on. YouTube has given me massive value over the last 6-7 years.

But I see now that how it's currently built up it's not ready for the next evolution where you want more transparency. They have become so big so of course it will be very hard for them to adjust to a new landscape. I'm very grateful for all they have been giving me in value.

As people get empowered by technology eventually they will be so much empowered that they see the limits in the platforms that they use. Especially if the old platforms doesn't evolve as well. Stagnation is a big risk.

I do wish "disagrees on rewards" were more common. Also, I heard a lot of people talk about how they only punch down, trying to correct the behavior of low accounts. Too fearful of retaliation from large accounts. This is awful. Punch up, everyone. If a 1k sp account upvotes their post for a penny, big whoop. But when 100k+ accounts are upvoting for legit dollars and 1mil accounts ?!? That's where the value is going. Is that post worth 3000 times what that 10 cent post is? Not possibly. That's where disagree on rewards should be especially ok. Also also...is it crazy to suggest that downvotes be somehow anonymous? Dunno how trust could be verified, but it seems like it might solve some problems...might cause more.

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All of this stuff was making my head spin on this day, as well as now. There are so many things that can still be said. People can talk for years and go nowhere. I see you're having fun though.

I hope no one minds the fun I'm tryna bring.

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Well, but what you didn't mention is that the fake in your example is a single dad trying to bring some light into his kid's life on the eve of their mother's disappearance and the real deal made his big money by selling the mother's and others' kidneys.
So...context.

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