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RE: Steem - Let's step back from the ledge for a bit...

in #steem4 years ago

There does not appear to be a win-win option with Mr. Sun any more. Without de-fanging him of the Ninja Stake he will only return to his hostile take over from a different angle. As one that was against 22.2's deployment, we seem way past that now and it is a case of survival. At this point he needs to be @nulled out of existence in my opinion. We have gone to war and the chain's trust has already been broken so philosophical points of ownership need no longer apply.

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And you say that based on what? No one has proposed much of a negotiation with him outside of taking away his stake... and that's not really negotiating. That's I win and you lose.

The witnesses installed 22.2 which only froze the stake while agreeing to a meeting on March 6th. That date was asked for by Mr. Sun. In hindsight (although my suspicions were active at the time) he was biding time to get his failed coup in place with the fraud of using the STEEM of unsuspecting clients of 3 exchanges. So he cannot be trusted or else he would have waited until March 6th meet up to decide to make such a move.

He cannot be trusted, Pull the @null lever and lets get this unfortunate situation behind us and let him sue @ned.

It wasn't a coupe, it was him doing what he had to in order to get access to his stake back. It was all reactionary. He literally didn't have many other choices. I don't support what he did, but I for sure understand it.

He has proven to be untrustworthy. We must do what must be done. De-Fange him. He is a threat that must be removed. We have no face to save as 22.2 did away with that. It was like pointing a gun at someone and now we are afraid to pull the trigger? Get on with it and pull the @null lever.

P.S. His reasoning does not concern me. We are past that.

It's attitudes like that which produce lose lose outcomes. I don't think we are there just yet.

If he is not de-fanged then we are definitely going to loose. There is not going to be any kumbia moment. If we do not @null the ninja tokens then we are going to end up with a fork and that will be worse than any fall out from @nulling Mr. Sun. Business is not a weak person's game. Cap him asap.

Loose what exactly? This isn't a war, at least it shouldn't be, which is the whole problem with how this is being framed.

22.2 turned this into a war. Mr. Sun escalated things further with the exchange frauds. If you think this can be now be put back in the box you are very naive to the cutthroat world of business. That is not meant as an insult. In fact it probably indicates that you are a nice person. Nice people will loose here. The loss will be the chain, the STEEM brand. Much like how BitcoinCash lost with the Bitcoin fork. If you want to be part of STEEMCash then continue on with negotiations. If you want to remain STEEM then knee cap Mr. Sun as soon as we get the chance.