RE: An Interview with Steem Founder, Dan Larimer, on Creating Systems to Make the Government Obsolete
I believe I've made a comment about this to you before that the right to censor is a right that is of utmost importance in a free society.
Freedom of speech means that you will not be put in jail or forced to pay fines for voicing your opinions.
It doesn't mean that people need to be forced to listening to your opinions. Since people need to be able to choose who and what they listen to, it's paramount that they are able to shut out certain voices from their personal lives.
That doesn't mean that they are allowed to, or even will, silence the speech completely.
It simply means that they need to be able to ignore it; you don't have a right to force anyone to listen to you.
You can privately talk about me being a dick all you want, for example, but you still don't have the right to come to my house and call me a dick, since it's my house, and I control what goes on in my house.
The same applies to platforms like Twitter, Facebook, etc. If whoever owns the platform feels that certain speech is not allowed, he has the right to make a rule that bans that sort of speech.
If someone doesn't like it, he can, in a free society, build his own platform and make his own rules.
wow
There is no right to cesor people and I cant even get past the first line in your reply because its so proving of how you see censorship.
I am not saying people need to be forced to listen to anyone. for fucks sakes do you even think before you type?
Im done and am not going to ready your response because it is obvious I would get more back and forth talking with a brick wall.
Have fun pushing your agenda of "censorship is paramount".
fucking swear.
Well, maybe you should have read the rest of it. I'm not sure how you'll ever be able to acquire new information and perspective with that kind of an attitude. Suit yourself.
shrugs
also that is what the mute button is for. but people don't want to use it they would rather censor people with the flag.
:/
I actually agree about the mute button. I think it's a much better way, for the community as a whole, for people to just mute who they want to ignore, and leave the person's content for other people to decide for themselves.
Flagging should be used for things like spam, etc.
That I'm not even disagreeing with.
But we do have a disagreement on my scenario of you coming into my house to insult me. I doubt we'll agree.
I also like some of the content I've seen from you regarding things like feminism, which we agree on completely, so no, I have no interest in flagging you.
Just wish you'd behave a bit better and stopped insulting people, for your own good, that is.
xD
Thanks again for not flagging me.
im sure we agree on a lot and disagree on a lot, open discourse it a good thing.
yes because I didn't listen to you im never going to learn.
fucking swear.
Look at all the people on your side censoring me because of this proving my point.
this is funny and only proof of how dan has set the system up to fail and it is because he is supporting this type of behavior. if you read his post he sais it right in the open.
but keep flagging me and keep watching steemit dye.
You all acting like flaggots is the reason steemit dropped so much and why people leave faster then they show up.
I just watch you all keep drilling more holes in your own boat then cry about how you don't understand why its sinking.
Im glad that you all trying to censor me is happening on such a widely seen post as dollar vigalantes that way even morof steem gets to see how steemit treats differing opinions. even ones based in facts and providing evidence to back itup. but yeah the actual post dan wrote about why we need to censor, none of that matters to you all.
fucking swear.
I been beating this drum for months now, this whole deal is just an experiment to them. They get paid for the next 2 years and they don't give a shit. Look how much they have cashed out already, and they will keep doing it until about the 2 year mark when Steemit takes it final shit on everyone else.
If they truly cared for this platform and wanted it to succeed they would start with at least a little bit of communication to the masses, instead they have remained silent and continue to cash out. That should tell anyone with half a brain what the future holds.
I sure hope the other systems in dev like synero and yoursnetwork are watching over here close and learn from this crap. People should probably start watching yoursnetwork, at least it will be utilizing a proven stable currency instead of some self mined founders currency who ran to the bank laughing.
And of all the people in the world Dan could choose to do an interview with right now, he chooses TDV?? Holy shit is all I can say. You'd think Dan would be wanting this getting interviews on places like forbes, entrepreneur, EoF, or something similar not some dude on the dark and shady side of things.
People are flagging you because they don't want to listen to you, because you attack them with insults.
Like I said, you are free to insult me. Nothing I can do about it without resorting to violence. However, I can ignore you, and you are not allowed to insult me on property or platform that I own. If I own a platform like a social media, in a free society, I have the right to censor you if I please.
Just like I have the right to silence you if you come into my living room to insult me.
By the way, I've never flagged you.
no one is forcing them to listen to what I say. they are censoring me out of opinon. there is no reason to flag me if they don't want to read it, just don't read it. also I never attacked anyone and freedom of speech is the freedom to offend. what people like and don't like should not have anything to do with censoring. th is all exactly what dan is promoting in his post and what everyone is doing is only proving they hold the same values no matter the level of mental gymnastics they are preforming to keep it up.
yep you have the right to ignore me, that's it.
wrong I have the right to insult you and express my opinion anywhere and everywhere. even if it is in your own house. you can choose to not let me in your house but you do not have the right to control my thoughts and words. and this goes back to the whole censorship is wrong imo and you feel it is paramount like dan does. that's fine that we have differing opinions on that.but actions or calls to action are not words. the fact that I am getting flagged and it is getting supporteis only proof that censorship is supported on this site no matter how much people pretend its all about free speech.
yes you have the right to do it, does not make it "moral". and because of your forcing of opinions onto others on your site they have the right to leave it and not use it, like whats been happeing with steemit, people leave faster then they arrive and steemit is going to shit because of it. so yes you have the ight to censor someone out of opinion on your own site but you also have the right to have your site go to shit because of our actions and pushing everyone away that doesn't hold your opinions. I swear its almst like your reading line for line off dans old opst that this is all about. lol
thank you for not flagging me, I would rather you prove me wrong and it to stay up for everyone to see. at the same time I only see you supporting the people flagging me and not speaking out agienst it you might as well be doing it to.
Whatever though, I know what dan said in his post. I no longer care if people are willing to look at it them selfs before jumping in to defend him. besides my comment was to jeff because I don't think he has fully looked into what dan has said. all the other people jumping in to try to white knight for dan is funny.
Maybe jeff will say why or whynot he argees with dan or maybe dan wil respond one day to all the responses he got after making that post(I doubt it and I was not the only one that responded to dan on it)
All good, have fun, steem on.
when someone flags something, they are removing it from the view of others, not just themself.
if they use the mute button, they are refusing the interaction. if they use the flag, they are interfering with my ability to see things that i didn't flag. if someone else thinks they can choose for me what i say, OR what i see, we have a problem.
Trolls will never win!
you call me a troll because my opinion is differing from yours but you sir are a flaggot. you flag people out of opinion and are the root cause of why steemit is dying so good job!
Keep flagging more and proving to all of steemit how full of shit you are. you could attack the points in my argument but you cant so you flag them so people cant see the truth. good job flaggot!
I will stop calling you a troll once you start bringing factual information to back your claims.
The facts are in dans post that I linked in my comment.
I absolutely agree with people right to flag content because they don't like it but in return the flaggy may rally his friends and undo said flaggin.
I'm really hoping this doesn't put a target on me but in this comment you even said "Since people need to be able to choose who and what they listen to, it's paramount that they are able to shut out certain voices from their personal lives."
and when you make a comment or post go transparent people no longer have access to all the information you said people need to make informed decisions. I just don't think one or 2 users should decide what others hear based on what they think is good for people to hear. Its a bit of contradiction at the root of it.