RE: The Account Creation Problem
Do you think my post would have gotten $15 of engagement with out bid-bots? I can answer that question for you by pointing to my last several posts. The answer is no
In that case, unfortunately, the community of Steem stakeholders don't value your work for much.
I'm not endosing that view, but it is what it is.
On the matter of onboarding, I think we have to address retention more than onboarding. 50c/user is a reasonable cost for a blockchain-based solution which has more to offer than a cheap(er) pure web site. The problem is that very few users who get signed up on here actually stick with it so even 50c is just a waste of money in bulk. Fix the former and 50c becomes a reasonable and generally tiny portion of overall customer acquisition costs.
Hah, your bidbotting succeeded in getting some actual engagement by virtue of me showing up to downvote against the paid votes. Irony.
Don't mean to step in-between a convo but without dev's like @disregardfiat we might as well just pack up. Steem NEEDS more DEVS not less. The more people working on the blockchain the more value it has. Just my 2 cents.
I agree wholeheartedly, @steemitqa. This whole exchange is why I'm thinking seriously about ditching Steem as well. I've hung in for more than two years and watched this whole experiment circle the drain. I hoped @elipowell could make a difference, but I think the damage is done. My business partner and I are invested heavily in a real-world business based on the blockchain. We need credibility in the "real world" and something interesting to show potential investors. Right now, I'm not finding anything remotely inviting on the Steem blockchain. Instead, I find a consortium of messes like this one, which give Steem anything but credibility.
I'm not disagreeing with your perspective but this whole exchange could have been avoided by not buying a lot of votes on an unremarkable post with narrow interest, when we have just gone through months of both social and technical effort to try to revive organic curation, and then when the misstep was pointed out, responding by buying more votes.
There may are no doubt some painful adjustments going on in terms of the structure and culture behind voting and vote selling, but that does not mean devs and dev's contributions aren't good.
Thanks for the response @smooth I just hope we find some middle ground to let people get their work scene without to much drama.
I get it. All growing pains.
Bidding $16 on a post should barely put it in to trending. If on boarding is a narrow interest than I really am in the wrong place / circle jerk. Seems the only thing you want is less bid bots... not a smart contract platform, not an alternative to app stores, not an alternative to DNS, not a VR creation and sharing platform, not AR point of sales systems, not honest gaming, and not little accounts with people as stubborn as you.
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All that other stuff is great. Just stop buying votes regularly and all will be well. Or more to the point buy if you want, but if other people disagree and downvote, don't start a war over it. We're all entitled to upvote and downvote as we see fit.
Yes, my view is that vote selling, bidbots, etc. have been and to a lesser extent continue to be a major problem. They're not the only thing that matters, but other things mattering don't suddenly make them not a problem either.
Please contribute to the positive without contributing to the negative. It's really not that hard.
All that other stuff exists in some form... or is being actively worked on. I really have been dev’n a storm over here and the only people who notice are off platform. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Damn glad I bought some engagement. Wanna vote on my steem dao proposal so I can use the “correct” inflation source we strived so hard for? It’s never been my intent to mine the PoB which is probably why you don’t know who I am.
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That is an exceptionally accurate take on Steem stakeholders. My work here has landed me in consultancies with the IEEE for autonomous systems and we're about to release an app with a top ten university on Steem. But not a single person has attempted to use the VR tool set @dlux-io released before Decentraland release their community toolset. The stakeholders here are sitting on a goldmine and they can't collectively curate their way out of a paper bag. Blind down votes are part of the problem, attention has value. Too bad this is our first interaction instead of any of my other work.