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RE: No More Fear on Self-voting!
really, self-voting is bad. according to me, that is even a bit unthinkable. why wouldn't anyone want to self-vote his creation. it is only normal that someone would even if there was no earning involved!
The real self-voting problem is that I could write a bot that posts 40 empty posts per day, votes for all of them, and skim a bit of reward all day long while providing no benefit to the system.
Nobody is saying you shouldn't be voting on your own stuff; we just want to make sure you aren't incentivized to upvote your own spam. :)
Look if it is spam someone who cares might downvote it. If no one cares, then what is the harm?
You can't force people to pay what they don't want to pay and don't see the value of, in a voluntary system. They will just sell, which helps no one. One look at the price action over most of the past year and we see this effect in action.
Exactly. And people will care a lot if it takes a significant amount of the reward pool, the content would get downvoted quickly.
When plagiarism gets upvoted a lot and suddently people realize it was actually stolen work they are very quick to downvote, I've seen it happens dozens of times. The community can police itself we don't need no babycurvesitters.
babycurvesitters lol
I would like to see minnows excempt from that self voting principle, then their curation rewards will grow at least, also a cap on the power would be useful or something along those lines, I'm not sure what has been discussed before since I'm sure it has been before(5-6 months ago)
I also like the idea of smooth for that investor class, but much like what you've proposed @ the guardians, I don't like class systems, and I wouldn't want rewards removed and another class that you have to buy into.
It's a shame it would take years to get to where other have placed themselves in a few months.
Sure the developers have built a system and all but placing themselves out of reach and being viewed like dieties by some won't help anyone.
What would be the point of this system if it's just banked crypto that does nothing and support nobody.
Curation should be fun for everyone, investors should be well off for their early push and developers should sooner or later move on to some other ideas, having this platform as a side income, where they can always be supported for the many opportunities given to the many people making a living and transferring wealth between themselves.
So yeah keep the rat maze I guess see where it leads :D
(Steemit experiment must go on :D )
Is it really necessary? can it change anything in reality :P can it make us better as humans, that is what steemit should be, not a dead forum with posts nobody reads for profits everybody's chasing and putting their thumbs up their arse, some quality shakesperian poetry there :D
Yeah I do agree it seems all the profits made by the platform are already "off-shored" 10mil in income and 30mil sold I was very mindfucked by that, can't remember where I saw that but It was available on the steemtools for sure.
If you do that your posts will get instantly downvoted and you will be labelled as 'troll' and you will probably end up on cheetah's blacklist too.
The ideal-world GT solution to this problem is to make sure your potential curation rewards for reading and voting on good content outweigh the money you would make by self voting.
Alternatively, if you were lazy, the second line of defensse would be others dv-ing your 40 emmpty posts when they see you up to no good.
woah, is it that extensive. gosh i didnt know. woah, that one is an issue! i didnt know the bots wrote posts too, even if empty!
There have been bots that wrote entire articles, and got upvoted to the front page. The articles were nonsense, but they looked good enough to some whales who did not seem to be paying proper attention.
shocking amazing. thank you for highlighting!
just self-voting wasn't what they were concerned about when they created n^2. They were worried about people exclusively voting for their own content. Why "spend" your vote on someone elses content when you can post 40 times a day and pay yourself by upvoting your own posts.
selfvote away, but think of others too, your 0.1 cent vote might do someone else more good than your self pat on the back. Other people can help you out more and push you harder than you can plus, it's easier to fall from a pile of cash than to gather one acting solely in your self interest, taking your "fair share" monopoly style, Sorry for using words given a bad ring( I hate that fair share speech )
So yeah I would like to see a free market economy based on social value and truth grow from here, but it's a bit of a stretch for now :D