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RE: Moving to hive
Thanks for the summary of the goings on and your efforts in collating the information you have provided @moeknows.
Thanks for the summary of the goings on and your efforts in collating the information you have provided @moeknows.
You're welcome. I also have the following which is more subjective in nature:
Other findings
-@haejin's content seems legit, but some posts are low in content containing only a couple of charts and a sentence.
-he was very successful and had many followers long before rancho came around
-many of his supporters seem to have came here for him or because of him
-many of his supporters have no idea who rancho is (or that he was giving haejin 11k in upvote) and think this campaign is about his success due to their upvotes.
-@haejin doesn't seem to ever mention @ranchorelaxo by name to his followers, and I haven't heard him directly address the accusation that he was colluding. (He does mention that he is accused of having multiple bots and denies it)
-I don't think haejin has directly addressed bernie or any of the groups here on steemit in a dialog (I could be wrong), but he does mention the attack during the last 4 or 5 minutes of his youtube videos starting on 20 Dec.
Haejin has bots? Crazy allegation! He works flat out on TA ans some people find his short direct of the moment posts incredibly useful. BS aka randowhale has 60 bots he uses. A little research will show you... but you will need to click on them to reveal content as theyve been censored by yours truely BS
Did I say he has bots? I think you may have misread my post. I said that haejin himself mentions allegations, but I have not. The conduct of Bernie is not really relevant to this conversation, but I am aware of his bots, as is the general steemit community. How do you think he got a negative rep? That being said, the haejin/rancho situation deserves attention. What is your take on it?
Sorry! Got the wrong end of the stick there. Re: Haejin Rancho I don't see the issue at all. Randowhale upvotes hisnown posts to value of $100 or more. I have an sceen shot that I posted burn of course Randowhale censored it. As far as I believe Rancho is an independent whale, but if he isn't, so what? BS runs 60 or so fake accounts aka bots. My issue is not with Randowhale biting fie himself (though I think it's by dishonest to the people that have paid him) but it's the negative voting I have issue with. Randowhale xouldnahve simply used his voting power uplift 100's of minnows of posts he thought were worthy. ITN would have had sameness effect on the reward pool bur has positive results. I.e. 100's of motivate minnows
I disagree with bernie's self-voting and really self voting in general. I also disagree with his using his power to downvote people he doesn't agree with. Now that we got that out of the way.
Rancho can do what he wants, but the community has a bit of a responsibility to correct his efforts if they don't believe in the worth of those posts. Otherwise, one whale could simply by the whole pot and kill steemit. I don't believe that haejin should be downvoted to 0, but honestly, he's doing pretty well.