A pitch for @steemcleaners and a 1k SP delegation
So, it's not a ton, but today I delegated 1,000 SP to @steemcleaners. I have been hesitant because I really only want to delegate to things within the Minnow Support Project or to things that directly benefit minnows. I have a few thoughts.
@steemcleaners helps everyone
When someone abuses the system they steal rewards from all of us. When @steemcleaners drops a flag it returns rewards to everyone. So, their flagging rewards all the users on the platform. So, I feel pretty good that this project meets my minimum definition of helping minnows as I think they'll disproportionately benefit by the work done.
@steemcleaners is transparent
I like that it's pretty easy to know the rules for cheetah and for steemcleaners. Don't plagerize. Don't do hate speech. It's pretty simple. I'm sure there is more too it, but that's the gist. I think they are good about communicating what they look for, why the flag, and have the ability to resolve conflict. All of those things make them a great team.
I happen to like the people
I think @anyx and @patrice in particular are pretty swell. I know there are others involved, but these are two of the folks I've had the most interaction with and hold both in high regard.
So, I know it's not MSP, and I know that's ok, and I'm excited to share I'm helping keep this place free of shitposts and spam.
I'm gonna do an extra thing too.
I'm in part responding to @timcliff who suggested folks on the platform delegate. I also want to make it easy for others to do and ask that they pitch in some too. I'm gonna make that easier too by providing a few links so you can do this in just a few clicks:
Delegate SP to this @steemcleaners:
50SP, 100SP, 250SP, 500SP, 1000SP, 5000SP Don't delegate so much that you have less than 50SP left on your account.
I may add more to this later, but next up I'm working on msp-mods, a reward system for msp-waves audience members, maybe some love for a new game called Steem Monsters, and eventually some love for PAL-studios too.
@aggroed...I have 1 concern about Steemit. This is the red flag. Yellen could buy 10 Million Dollars of Steem Power. Then she could downvote all the posts of @aggroed and the amount would be zero. She could do that even with a bot. Youtube could do the same if Steemit would get a threat for them. This is quit scary. Am I missing something about the red flag?
She'll have to buy 10 million dollars of steem first. Play the supply and demand game. Limit supply, cost goes up, she gets less steem power. Stop selling it ppl!
@bamboosteemer ...at some days the volume in 24h is more then 100M$. This 10M$ wouldn't push up the price noticeably. Maybe from 4.1$ to 4.3$.
@mafsteem ...We should be fine for the next 12 month or so. I think the elites haven't even noticed yet, what a threat steemit posses to them, but I agree to your concerns.
@stehaller...I have exactly the same opinion. To me Steemit is a very good investement the next 6 months. Then it could get dangerous because of the red flag.
That was the first thing that i thought, but if that happens they just need to put a system up to prevent that, maybe something like, u can only flag a % of someone's payout, and a system where u lose SP if you use and abuse the flag option
@teutonium...When do the delegates realize this happens? Maybe 51 of the delegates are not affected and have no interest to change something. Where is the border of abusing? Nobody knows. Just no red flag and everything would be fine.
You have a point with someone outside who is rich can come in and ruin it all for the rest. Yet are there not a specific amount of steem in circulation that can be bought and even if it is all bought Dan has control of the majority hence will step in if anyone tries to manipulate steemit. Our its just my wishful thinking?
@mawit07...I think it's just your wishful thinking. The top dogs have no interest to give away the red flag. The top dogs will be happy the price of Steem goes up.
I also have the same question I asked my friend and did not know the answer @mafsteem
@venox...It's a pity the delegates have no interest to hide this red flag.
I hope they do this my friend @mafsteem ♥
@venox...It would be a surprise because they have the power and this way they think to keep the power. The deeper problem of this is DPOS. Steemit is trusting 51 of the 101 delegates. That's like a parlament. There is not 1 parlament in the world who is doing what people want to be done. DPOS could go the same direction.
@mafsteem...The solution to the red flag would be, just get rid of the downvote/flag option.
@stehaller...it would be the solution. If you talk to the delegates it's almost impossible they will do that. They think it's a wonderful weapon. I think the deep incentive for them is to control the system.
What is the solution in your opinion ? :-( @mafsteem
@venox...Short term (3-6 month) Steemit is a good investment because at the moment this platform can just work with DPOS. It's very fast and very cheap because it's just stored on 101 Servers. With POS this wouldn't be possible now. This year the Update Casper of Ethereum is coming. Then this kind of social platform will be also possible with POS. Then there will grow other platforms. The solution is to stay awaken, to watch the market and to sell at least a part of Steem in a couple of months.
I agree with you @mafsteem
Thank you for all this explanation ♥♥♥ I support you
thank you my best friend ♥@mafsteem
Thank you for this solution @mafsteem
support you
Yeah she could. But she's just 1 person. There's a whole community here. There are unintended consequences to that.
@aggroed...She is a very powerful person. She can print even 10 Billions in a second out of thin air. And there is youtube, google, Facebook, twitter. Not less powerful. Without this red flag everything would be fine. But like this I don't see a long term future for Steemit. I read the delegates like this red flag to control the system. Very dangerous. This way the delegates could get suddenly controled by the big system. But maybe you mean with unintended consequences, the delegates will hide this red flag if this happens?
I attempted to delegate and got an error message.
Fixed. 1am for me...
Yes you did :)
Great endeavor for a greater good.
Keep on steemin'
This is a great thing to do, and I am happy to see many of the more experienced members here to help so actively minnows & the quality of the content in the platform!
When I first got here, It was very difficult to find how to do many things and was hard to understand some basic concepts but I am thankful that the answers are here, waiting to be discovered :)
Regarding the steemcleaners, I plan to do an article in the near future, to understand and explain more about what they do. I recently published an informative article about the cheetah and her complementary work along with some suggestions, that I hope will be taken under consideration by @anyx.
Thank you for sharing this information,
Katerina
It's not everyday we get people who are supportive and concerned about the community and it's survival, well done @aggroed
Thank you for supporting projects which keep steemit free from spam and shitposting nonsense.... I really am disheartened when I see comments like 'This is a great post I will follow you for more' and think that this platform is simply being abused by people who are botting and hacking the system.... I really look forward to more posts from @steemcleaners showing how they are using your delegation.
Also I was wondering I had 15 delegated SP when I first started and now it's gone after I invested some money into SP - is it gone because of time lapse or because I now have my own SP ?? Thanks @lonestarpoet
Thank you lonestarpoet,
We really appreciate all the feedback that we receive.
You're welcome
Mine has gone also, it seems when you add your own sp, for every 1 you add, the system takes 1 away, until you reach the threshold of 15, then you have 0% allocated, as I guess 15 is supposed to be stable enough to keep you going, if I am wrong someone will come along and say, that though was my own personnel experience, hope this helped?.
Its a great informative poat thanks for sharing dear...
I like this delegation, but please tell us more about steem monster! You dropped the teaser so long ago!
Im also concerned bout it too
I'll 3rd this. Upvoting original content for more views/replies.
i am already delegating my steem power to the community
Definitely a good initiative. Good contents should get proportionate rewards and copied content should be dealt with accordingly.