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RE: The Flawed "Witnesses Started This" Argument.

well if you null the stake you have to go with new chain, because i think the crypto community will turn against us. because the only thing "they" had against us was "you feez the stake" and nothing else.

and yes i do feel he is not honest, and he did not know what he bought, he thought he will migrate this to tron, make a big announcement about it and get tron a bit up. And it really does look like he is still working with Ned, so the feeling is that he knew what he bought in the sense of what stake should be used for.

I don't have big stake, i don't have friends in the inside, and i have no idea what is going on, maybe i should not know. think pennsif said in the one of the town halls about the miners strike in UK. they had the support of all the community, and it lasted for a while, then they were forgotten, and then they lost.

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Yeah the optics of burning someone's "property" look bad to crypto users who are often free market libertarian/anarchists. This is why Ethereum Classic is still around.

Which brings up an interesting theoretical we'll have to deal with in the real world eventually (unless everything gets scrapped and we start over from tribes or something), and that is: what do we do about ill-gotten gains as we transition to decentralized, voluntary, peaceful society?

Here on STEEM it's the ninja-mined stake. It remains the ninja-mined (ill-gotten) stake even if JS sells it to somebody else now. How can stolen/fraudulently/violently-gained property be "washed?" If there's a clear victim, then it seems returning it to that victim is the key, but what about unclear situations like "ninja-mining?"

In the physical world some of the examples would be the insane wealth gained from privatized prisons, running for profit, on the backs of slave labor, funded by stolen money, and fed bodies by sickly named "Justice System." What about when the US federal government simply claimed that all un-owned/un-claimed land was now theirs, and began selling the "timber rights" to private corporations?

How much of the "wealth" on the planet was directly (and trackably) gained through criminal means?