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RE: Thank You, Justice Was Done: But!

in #steemit7 years ago

@spiritualmax, I'm not sure if you have heard of us but we are building a community of good flaggers to go after abuse. It's called @steemflagrewards, a people and Python powered project.

Here's the last post. Let me know if you have any feedback. It's a work in progress.

https://steemit.com/steemflagrewards/@steemflagrewards/steem-flag-rewards-new-steem-discord-bot-pull-downvote-data-on-any-post-9ab5bee3ff2b1

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Wow, that's an awesome effort. As a programmer myself I can see how much effort was put into that. I hope you have success and use it for the right purposes. ;)

Thanks! Yes, I've had to do my fair share of tinkering to get some things working. We have a way to go.

We could sure use others with programming / scripting mindset on Discord. I've been doing a LOT of learning as I go.

Yes, it is my heartfelt desire, for this project to continue to be used for the good of the community. I think a lot of us have grown very frustrated with how so much rewards make it to the scammers hands while hardworking users are getting the short end of the stick. We hope to change that. One flag at a time.

I would like to help with programming, or at least do some programming myself. I was thinking of making a few Steemit bots but I'm not really well-versed in Steemit's API dynamics. Do you have a chat where I can ask you some questions when I'm developing it? I'd really appreciate some input and I could provide some help if it's required sometime.

Hi - I've never been a victim of flagging but am aware of it... it's good to see something being done, happy to contribute..... I think a collective-manual solution to this is the way forwards given that it's so easy to see who the abusers are.... I checked out the original post which started this all off, traced the down voter, it's just appalling the amount of quality posts they've down voted recently, and for what, a few extra 0.01% of the reward pool?

Of course I notice we don't mention names here! Part of the problem of course.

I think just like we have @steemflagrewards for good flags. It would be helpful if we had automated mechanisms for countering bad flags as well.

The problem is that most people would likely not upvote a post that has a significant negative rshares value. I think an alternative approach is instead of trying to cancel out the downvotes on the existing post is to instead have the content reposted and counter votes be used to bring the second posts to a positive value.

So, let's say a post is wrongfully flagged to oblivion. We just have them repost and upvote the repost. The downvoter could continue to downvotes the reposts but if the counter upvotes have more power I am certain they will eventually give up. This is me just thinking out loud but would be cool to see someone run with the idea

TBH I can't quite get my head around the concept of re-posting a downvoted post.... I've thought it through and hoped I could come up with something constructive to say, but I'm struggling... doesn't it just depend on the original 'bad flagger' sort of giving up?

And I'm taking it this also depends on some sort of collective anti-flag curation pools/ trails, with massive VP to reward the re-posted originally-flagged post, which I think is a good idea.

Yes, you got it. It would likely depend on both those things. When the flagger realizes the community does not support them such as in the case of a vindictive or hate flag. This will likely have a sway on subsequent actions.

Some people are bullheaded so may not work for them but think it could be helpful but it would especially need the second criteria you mentioned (massive collective VP).

It's the kind of thing I'd happily delegate a few SP to, we could sell it like an 'insurance policy'..... 100K users each delegating a few SP, that'd do it!

This needs to be a thing.