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RE: Copy, Paste, STEEMIT! Making Money Off Of Other People’s Content?
we're organizing in the channel #steemitabuse on slack to voluntarily moderate. means identifying and downvoting content stealers
we're organizing in the channel #steemitabuse on slack to voluntarily moderate. means identifying and downvoting content stealers
Making a police force is not the way to fix this. There is no way to win that battle.
Steemit is disruptive technology, it should be embracing and enhancing sharing not policing it like the MPAA.
The solution is to encourage embedding content and adding commentary.
it's our duty to keep steemit.com running, and that's the reason for the downvote button. I disagree.
Then you are starting the same battle the MPAA did against napster and torrents, and joining the police force. Fighting against sharing is a losing battle, the ideas that succeed embrace the disruptive technologies.
oEmbed is not being attacked by the content police, and is so successful embed.ly has built a bushiness around it.
Pirates rarely make money, yet alone ask for money. AFAIK, it's kind of frowned upon to ask for donations for supplying pirated content on most torrent sites. There was a recent dust up over a group doing that very thing.
Here on Steemit people are basically pirating other peoples content without giving them credit or supplying a link to the original content and accepting money in return. It would be like movie pirates removing all of the credits from the intro and putting their intro logo in it's place thereby making it appear they made the movie. It should be frowned upon here just as it is on torrent sites IMHO.
If someone wants to steal other peoples content, go for it, but at least post a message asking people not to upvote with accounts that could monetarily reward them or make use of the coming feature that disallows monetary gains from post.
That's my 2 STEEM.
it's not. the community is very well in the position to establish certain standards
A police force is a bit melodramatic. We're not showing up at their houses unannounced and shooting their dog before hauling them off to rot in a cage. We're voting plagiarized content down.
It's simple... if people spam stolen content and get upvoted, that encourages the behavior and reduces the rewards for the content that this network will need in order to provide real value.
Besides, tinfoilfedora , to jump on the bandwagon and compare this to the MPAA which is a part of the establishment and rips off the artists in favor of the recording companies, movie production companies and any other medium you can, is nowhere near an apple to apples comparison. The incentive should be to get good content on steemit ofwhichh the CREATOR is appropriately compensated by the viewers and not some stingy algorithmic process which puts most of the money the hosts pocket (google-youtube) There is plagiarism and there is borrowing and giving credit where credit is due.
Intention is to make sure that plagiarists don't get rewarded. Sharing what other people have done is OK as long as you at least give a link to the original. Preferably also add your own commentary and explain why the material is worth of looking.
We are not censoring anything, we just try to channel the rewards for users that are producing the best content. Plagiarists don't produce anything new, so they don't deserve to be rewarded.
I agree with that. But making a police force is not the way to do it. That has completely ruined reddit.
Encouraging embedding solves both problems without creating a police force, or policemen, or automated downvoting bots...
(edit:Ok bacchist, whatever. Just watch what happens when a content police force gets created. It will turn into their job, and then give them some power, and turn them into either power mods or ai bot runners, which will turn to crap just like reddit.)
(edit: yes tuck, it's the ones that want to that become a problem, and there is already a content scanning downvote bot. You want power hungry reddit mods here, censoring people and things for political reasons? because that's how it starts. Users ignoring or downvoting should be enough, everything else will just waste effort and cause problems.)
The "policing" (using your term) done here is completely voluntary by people who don't want to see plagiarist get rewarded at the expense of the journalist. It's not something any of us want to do, but feel it should be done to send a message to others that they will not be rewarded for this practice on Steemit. Hopefully it will deter it from ever being done in the future so that no one has to hunt these post down and take time out of their schedule to downvote and post why they downvoted.
Some members are looking into a plagiarism API, but it cost money. So in the meantime some of us have chosen to do it manually. It's not organized, we simply choose to talk to each other and point out repeat abusers on slack when we feel like it. Lately, I don't feel like it and others have come along to fill in, because they want to apparently.
You do know what a police force is, right?