RE: How Steemit and DTube fund independent media
With an average of 2 cents per vote for lucky planktons, less for average planktons
Real independent media, real as in not having whale pimps to slave for, planktons.
Steemit still fails in several ways for most steemians (Will this ever change? I hope so, yet I remain sceptic)
Steemit somewhat works for some of the steeminans. Who are willing to jump trough weird hoop rules that don't really make sense, but manage to make a cashflow based not on actual votes of the average viewer, but based on whale power.
Steemit works for elite steemians, who don't have the slightest ethical values and act on pure greed.
Now i'm sure there are grey areas where a few clever monkees manage to swim in shark infested seas without getting slaughtered. And really manage to be succesful. Yet those i can count on one hand, and still i don't know if they are whaling in secret, sailing under another flag.
Keep in mind my view is somewhat limited to the small group i hang out with. I may be very wrong, but from what i hear in my group this is the image that emerges to me. A few exceptions. But by just using the platform in a human manner, without jumping trough weird bureaucratic hoops, steemit is not in any way a reliable source of income. Don't even think of getting the flu, or break a finger.
I hope this reply holds more value then my $0.004 vote.
Votes on content that is 7 days old or older, perhaps even 6 days 18 hours or older only cause damage by adding data to the blockchain while not adding a single rshare to the recipient of the vote.
To me it is annoying.
This is why I wrote about the 1 week in my comment to which you replied.
Steemit is garbage since I joined it, but is still my biggest time expenditure, or waste, along Youtube.
Youtube is like TV, but much better, due to much bigger diversity and much more content.
In STEEM you have to reward yourself by using bidbots.
It is risky, and I got downvoted at least 3 times by 3 different people for doing so, but the reward still exceeds the cost by far, and the downvoters did pay with VP, which almost everyone here tries to spare, because it is money and power, especially if you know how to leverage it.
Steemit is a better choice than facebook and Twitter for sure.
You got a 29.13% upvote from @sleeplesswhale courtesy of @stimialiti!
hehe.
If thats the case then something is definitely wrong. This way you can make money on whatever crap you post. So if honest people don't use bitsbots then shitposters just destroy the entire platform.
So that may explain the downvores, yet downvotes then work like censorship, and that would be just as bad as the thing they are trying to fight with downvotes.
And if you then still manage to win then it is just a joke.
How can steemit be 'better' then the other options if people need to reward themselves?
What am i missing here?
The main reason for vote related wrongs here is that dan allowed people, himself included as dantheman, to premine Steem.
Those whom exploited this opportunity when it was presented to them benefited in a way no one else today can profit, unless that one bought a lot of Steem at its lowest lows and became a whale himself.
The only 2 whales which might have bought their Steem instead of premine it are blocktrades and ranchorelaxo.
I use the word might because a preminer account can transfer Steem to a seemingly innocent account owned by the same person like every or almost every preminer did.
True and this is what downvotes are for.
True, and along with bidbots one should also downvote spam and counter retaliate.
Yes
Not even in cases of "flag below zero", except for those whom use bichass platforms in which flagged content really is censored.
Depends on the individual case, but as a concept it is not nearly is bad.
I am not winning.
I only grow, but I put a lot of time, thought, work and more into it.
Simply because here you get rewarded and on FB and TWTR u do not.
Whatever dirty stuff u can do to get rewarded there u can also do here, and this is another advantage of this platform, because with the possibility of downvotes, pieces of shit occasionally get downvoted.
@ranchorelaxo only made 3 posts???
It would be good to have the history of steemit documented for the future... Looks like i have missed a lot of 'fun'.
The way downvotes work seems a bit strange. For a platform that is 'censorship proof' in the eyes of some people, it has a downvote system that can be abused to just do that.. For me coming relatively late to the party it just does not feel right.
Hmmm wait a minute, I know at least one person who is flagged an blacklisted, who is demonitised BY THE VERY SYSTEM OF FLAGGING.
That to me is:
So that may be an exception, but this person is STILL blacklisted. And it is severely punished.
As long as that is the case i will never ever change my mind that flagging is NOT censorship.
But i'm trying to figure out how to get that blacklist lifted. So i hope this will happen soon. So that i'm proven wrong. BUT STILL it then has taken FAR FAR FAR too long to get the blacklist lifted.
Cheating the system isn't just cheating? No matter how much time you put in?
Cheeting to proof that it can be cheated is ok. but after that it needs a fix to stop the cheating so that the platform is fair for everyone and not an advantage to those who 'know how to cheat'.
Yea, i'm having certain values... :-)
FB and TWTR can not be cheated into giving certain people free money (except the owners who sell peoples data for profit)
Now, i don't blame you to exploit the loopholes. But if this is how steemit works then it does NOT work at all. :-) Then it really is a ponzi machine. And if it does not fail on it's own. Then sooner or later justice will have a go at it. And then we all loose. The TAX boys will always be able to track down people with a lot of 'money' real or blockchain. It would just be a shame if this platform would be taken down on something silly like this.
At times it may be deceiving, because I believe that the average number of accounts per person here is above 3.
And this is what blockchain explorers are for.
In STEEM's case, the blockchain explorers which I know about and that are of any use are roadscape's steemd.com, jesta's steemdb.com and penguinpablo's steemblockexplorer.com
I missed too, both on premining and on the generosity stage that followed it.
I already answered to you about these complaints about downvotes.
I do not have a better idea of how downvotes should work.
I need a translation and an explanation for this part.
I already answered about this
I do not know what u refer to, so what can I reply about it?
Even if I thought that it is cheating, it is nothing compared to premining, so my conscience will remain clear about it.
U can consider the rules of the games as cheating.
U can also choose to learn to play the game and enjoy it.
And this game is real.
If u feel better when u have no control over ur content and get nothing 4 it, then good 4u.
FB & TWTR reward their share holders.
Here ur a share holder.
If u checked my blog here u could find many wrongs about it, but I stay here and admit that as bad as it is, it is better than yours.org and far better than FB ,TWTR, tsu.co.
I joined medium.com but did not log in there since, because I do not know how it works.
I think this platform will be taken down on its own due to increase in its amount of users and increase in its stored data (mostly spam) for each user.
You sure know how to monetise your own comments wile not voting for the one who helps you make the money, so this is my last comment here.
LOL
the bling of greed hurts my eyes
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