Will Europe's new laws ban Steemit?
https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/30/15898386/germany-facebook-hate-speech-law-passed
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https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/24/15684168/eu-hate-speech-law-facebook-twitter-youtube-video
Will the EU anti-hate speech laws be compatible with technologies such as Steemit? Will simple downvoting be enough to insulate Steem from these laws? Do you think we need a hard fork to support these types of laws?
Very good point. Also some EU laws make it mandatory for the data to be deleted upon user requests. Steemit needs to think about that too.
The deleting thing could actually have further implications. Let's say my bitcoin address will be linked to my identity and all my transactions are publicly visible, now linked to my name. Could I then ask to have them removed from the blockchain? That would be nonsense obviously, but... you see where I'm heading.
yes. nothing is easy in this world when it comes to money unless you are a hacker ;)
I saw last month, how German gov wants to ban some kinds of conversations, words, and expects FB to take down posts.
Yes, there is a fight coming; when they figure out it's not really possible with the immutable database. That said, it still may be possible to require some users muted?
Some posts flagged and not shown in steemit?
It's a bit like Apple being required to provide backdoor to iphone, or a secure email company being required to provide contents of messages; "we don't have the keys" is the reply, and governments don't like that answer..
I assume it would be incumbent on the google-able/web facing sites to do the cleaning. This is who they would most likely want to fine as well, the other option, if fines go unpaid is to seize the domain names for violators.
you are right we need a hard fork to support these types of laws
I'm not quite sure you understand what a blockchain is..
i saw your reply below maybe you are right 50%
Everyone is 50% right ;)
If they wanted to apply it to Steem, they would get the money from whom? The blockchain? :D
They would go after steemit IMO
They can ban steemit in EU if they dont comply with the law.
Oh man, I'll have to go through VPN again :D
Very scary what is going on. So who exactly is the one who is going to decide what is legal and what is not? and by what standards? In case of the dutch politician Geert Wilders (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Geert_Wilders) it took several judges and years of trial to come to a conclusion. In the future a random employee of a company can shut down someone else his message by simply pushing a button?
To my opinion is the very idea to make the owner of an open media platform in some way responsible for its content potentialy inciting discrimination. Civilians will be judging other civilians, some civilians will get the power to rule over others on subjects which maybe deserve a fair trial. All because some people fear to loose control ....
It appears freedom of speech may become a thing of the past. And I quite understand them censoring things that are harmful but, this looks like a slippery path to me. Who gets to decide what is hate speech for example? Is the person deciding on what constitutes hate speech impartial enough to do so? What agenda does this person, people, organization have and can they be trusted? If it is the EU then it will almost certainly have a globalist agenda. It makes me laugh when you hear people talking about fake news. Most people are diligent enough to research a story to be able to decide whats real or not however, it can be used to call something fake that they don't agree with. You could call even the MSM fake as quite often they do not report on all the facts just the ones they want you to hear.
I thought the whole purpose of STEEMIT as a blockchain platform was that because it is de-centralized, no one owns nor runs it nor really has any control of what is being posted except the individual who made the post who is anonymous because of the encrypted key!! Is that not why people are moving from youtube & facebook to steemit - NO possible way of censorship nor its consequenses??
Steem is decentralized, steemit is not. The CEO of Steemit is Ned Scott, or @ned. Steemit is a company that owns the domain name and publishes the contents of the Steem blockchain. They can be compelled to edit the results of the display of the blockchain, but not the blockchain itself, if issued a valid legal judgement.
well they cant apply it here on steemit thats it :)
Why not?
Another blind follower. Lol
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omg so they are going to ban if they don't with law