@berniesanders vs @haejin

in #steemit7 years ago

I must admit I do love @berniesanders banter. The latest bernie trending post

https://steemit.com/steem/@berniesanders/haejin-is-stealing-your-rewards

Highlighting the apparent evil doing by @haejin & @ranchorelaxo in this post alone has so far bagged @berniesanders $1,302.34 lol. In fact bernie will be toasting such opportunity, as im sure most would in their position.

Of course the real issues is not the Punches or Judy's in this little drama, rather the stage itself. The platform allows this behaviour and rewards it. Moreover actually needs it to happen.

Steemit is still beta and needs these dramas to harvest attention, it needs your greed, envy, jealousy, anger indeed any emotion as the fuel of growth. It makes for big dreams and legends to bring more users in search of the same.

I mean if they can do it, so might you one day. Its not that implausible, a good call on some coins giving you the ability to buy a ton of SP and your in the game. Moreover leveraging you SP with self voting to create the ever elusive passive income and continual SP growth.

They say the road to hell is paved with good intention. If this is so the opposite may also be true.... =)

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The real problem is that Bernie is essentially wrong.

Oh, he's not wrong in the sense that he's using the platform in a way that it wasn't designed for. Unfortunately for all of us, it's absolutely designed for the ridiculous bullshit that he's throwing.

He's just factually wrong.

He simultaneously plays on the belief that "you deserve more" (traditional political rhetoric) with "he doesn't deserve what he got" (traditional political rhetoric) and simultaneously making the argument that the people, whoever they may be, voting for H-dude's content have less right to direct their influence than "you" have the right to decide where they direct their influence.

At a certain point I have to start wondering if they simply aren't in collusion to motivate large washes of SP to move around in the system and capitalize all the easily flustered crypto cultists in the audience.

From my perspective, it's deeply tedious.

But you're also wrong, because the platform definitely doesn't need these dramas to attract attention. If anything, this is exactly the wrong kind of attention to draw to the platform. Highlighting the intermittent lotto-nature of rewards, drawing a sharp line beneath the observation that others can decide for you not just how much you earn but if you earn anything at all, regardless of the quality of your content. Making the participants look like a bunch of headless chickens.

A sensible investor would see that and run, very quickly, to something a little less fraught.

Also, let's be fair – after the changes in the blockchain which happened over the last couple of hard forks, you are not going to be joining the realm of the whales anytime soon. Or at all, if you use the platform like a reasonable person. The downward pressure on earning potential has increased vastly since the time that Bernie and Rancho made their big bucks. If the worm on a hook we're dangling out there is "you can be like them one day," aside from sensible people not wanting to be anything like them one day – fiscally-minded people will rapidly come to the conclusion that they will never be like them one day, because the system is against it.

The road to heaven cannot be paved with ill intention, especially when it runs right up to the edge of a cliff.

All good points and the only way have the same value weight as the like of bernie and co is to buy SP. To buy in with external wealth. The point I was aiming for is any attention is good attention and if high jinx in the order of what we see here brings the scammers. Then to get to the SP they need quickly the only way is to invest. Not saying its a good thing, but being agnostic on the type of behaviours any behaviour is better than no behaviour. Steemit may have been designed to die as part of the birth pains of a platform we are yet to see.

Steemit may have been designed to die as part of the birth pains of a platform we are yet to see.

I think that's giving people too much credit. At least too much foresight.

Now, I would totally believe that the original idea was "let's create a thing where people think they can get rich, but only implement halfway and expect other people to put in the real work where the problems are, which will then vastly inflate our self-created horde of tokens, and we can ride on the coattails of other, better, developers." That I would believe.

But I may be a cynic.

Any attention is pointedly not good attention. Not if you actually care about the ecosystem. Which you may not, I would hate to impart any sort of judgment of that kind.

If people show up looking to invest purely so they can spam at us, that doesn't help us. It definitely doesn't help attract new users. In fact, it strangles the golden goose. Encouraging that strangling to happen faster and more efficiently is not particularly good if you expect to ride that goes for any period of time.

That is a violently self-destructive position to take.

In this case, "no behavior" would be far superior to the behavior that we see a handful of whales engaging in. I really don't care what they do behind the scenes; selling their SP, renting out the bots, running self-promotion cycles – I just don't care. What I care about is when they end up polluting the posted content to the blockchain, because it acts as an active repellent to getting more people who actually want to use a social network as a social network involved.

Those are the people you want. Where they go, people who want to invest in their presence go, no matter whether those investors are shady or not. Step one, get normal, sane, social media active people in place.

You want more investment? That is how you get it. And that's how you keep it. Anything else is delusion of the most toxic ray sublime.

its such a drama, let the big dogs fight over it, me am just ok with the scraps for now,lol.

ha but you have hope, that one day it could be you up voting yourself $xxxx per post. And that is the point, steemit needs these fights to give us hope and keep our attention. Not saying its a bad thing, its just a method of growth.

I just find it a struggle to grow but your right darkerhorse let them fight over it for now.