In my defence - reasons, motives and evidence.

in #steemit6 years ago (edited)

(This is an continuation of the conversation which started here: https://steem.ly/D6)

Thank You for kind words as well, i do appreciate that.
I would like to refer to raised comments and provide explanations, while keeping it interesting.
I want to assure You that my intention is to answer every argument as completely as possible, not being offensive or anything.
Therefore please forgive me if some words aren't the best fit, i try my best.

Copy / pasted responses targeting new users with paid votes is just not a good way to go about it and I'll tell you why.
First, you boost these replies above others users that may have taken the time to leave a meaningful comment.

Why to say my comments essence is less meaningful? Who should decide?
Why excluding comment essence and its meaning from the equasion?
discarding it only because of a "copy/paste".
it's essence is seen uniquely by every each person it comes to, and feedback shows it is appreciated.

In follow material i would like to answer those questions and provide reasons, motives and evidence for my actions was beneficial to the platform.

Yes i boosted, and i also did have taken the time for comment content, and even more for all the code to deliver it precisely as well,
so why my message should be treated as worse, or less meaningful specifically. (about which more later)

According to what it supposed to do, it's in line with the concept,
because the comment is posted to a person only once in lifetime, and thats assures its high up, in visible place.

I want to provide added value.
Value is what person describes as a value for her/him, i belive.
I didn't receive any negative feedback from anyone i commented those greetings.
And i did received "thank you's" and some were really warm, meaning to me it brings a value.
Also at first there are really no crowds in comments under first posts, it could possibly overshadow.
The boost itself is for pennies also.

Second, it's not considerate to the author. What about their post?
You toot your own horn in their thread and could not offer the courtesy of a vote (not that it would make it right.)

I would opt to let that to the author to decide, because as mentioned i did not receive any complaints or flags to my message, prior to Yours ofc, and i did received lots of "thank you's" and some were really warm.

Look please, what people wrote in response:

Thanks, my friend, I really aprecciate your good and positive performance,!!
my best regads to you

https://steem.ly/Cu

Thank you so much for invite me to join your community! I am sure this is a great opportunity to learn a lot of very interesting topics ;) Greetings from Peru !! :)

https://steem.ly/Cv

thank you very much for your encouragement

https://steem.ly/Cw

I am not 100% sure what is this about but I think I will give qurator a try.
Thank you"

https://steem.ly/Cx

Thank you very much for your kind information

https://steem.ly/Cy

thanks mate will bookmark links help me by giving me a few friends ,would be real grateful

https://steem.ly/Cz

wow??????. Iam pleasantly surprised.Thanks .I will check out a few.

https://steem.ly/CB

I appreciate your valuable time in explaining each step, I think it is timely since I really started without a specific horizon and I will see each of those links, again thanks!

https://steem.ly/CC

Thank you very much! I will keep it in mind, this links are very interesting! :)

https://steem.ly/CD

Thanks !
#faggotcommander

It was a helpful, Thank you.

https://steem.ly/CE

woah, great thing to read! greetings, by the way! thanks a lot for the warm welcome and for the tips... i will check that all out... thanks!
C ya!

https://steem.ly/CF

many thanks, I appreciate your help. God bless you.
Have a nice day

https://steem.ly/CG

Thank you very much for what you wrote. I appreciate the act and will check it all out little by little.

https://steem.ly/CH

Thanks so much for this warm welcome.
It feels good that someone Is reaching out to help me.
I will definitely come around your community and will sure do make great impact there.
Thank you

https://steem.ly/CI

your post will definitely help the new blogger thanks man

https://steem.ly/CJ

See? it brings good.
Those are heartwarming responses.

So does it have marks of the spam, if it does no harm to anyone and it creates gratitude?

To do justice
Could one say a spam would do anything good?

Dont take it away,
its my way to bring joy
i was waiting for
somehting, i can contribute
i want do it to do it, even without boost
its my expression

it enables me to start a personal relation
where i personally can do something for someone
its a personal message indeed

(i could write to every person manually, everytime using freely flowed words, even changing link shorts, but with the same essence.
Would that make it any different/better? i wouldn't reach much people, and spend time very inefficiently, why would i do that ?
When i was working in customer support, i realised it fast, i have the same meaning to give, but no time to write it allover again everytime, so everyone of us made theirs own sentences for every case, and that made work possible.
Our time is limited. Instead i can make a scheme.
But its still, the same, personal message wanting to be read.)

A spam is something that person isn't interested of, which is not the case here, because every starting account is craving for any form of help when they start, and im reaching to them, first with the message, and 2nd with my further responds.

Moreover like @Stellabelle said in her major post about spam that i cant find now,
the definition of a spam is, its a message that even author himself does not care about.
And i do care what impact does it make to the person, and im open for questions and feedback
Only new account receives it, and only once in a lifetime.
It allows him or she to make a contact in response.
Because i check replies, i can direct someone to the best of my knowledge.
In future there could be a gateway allowing more people to see replies and answer them.

What about their post?

What about their future posts?
(Do we want more single flower pic's?)
https://steem.ly/CA

Would only one in a lifetime, seemingly not on the subject comment under one post, containing valuable to the author message, means disrespect? The connection may not be directly to post's content, but to author himself, that he came here and the fact that's one of the first posts he made.
Of course a private messages would be more convenient to use, if there was such, but that in turn could change part of the concept of building up the sp and visibility.
Because other users can see it as well, and it may bring some light on them as well.
Exactly, can't bring a courtesy of vote(yet), but instead the courtesy is in the message, that i hope, is worth more.

At one point, when i had actuall depresion diagnosted,
i realised the only thing that helps me is to BE helpful, to give something, to offer, to deliver.

i can upvote my comments all over the places, in a selfish way,
instead i'm choosing synergy,
i formed best what i could come up at the time,
which could bring the most value,
and focused on giving that, as the best what i got.
And upvoting that makes it visible, and yes earns me SP.
But i can earn SP on everything else too, make whatever comment, throw bots to upvote me on that,
i can write comments about posts conntents, like dwell how beautiful the flower on the picture is, just to upvote that.
Sure, its an option.
But i think one should do whatever the best he can to make steem/steemit better for people, (being helpful, showing where to go, giving a hand) So new people stay, and behave, and that shall translate on overall well being everyone's here, isn't thats what we all want? To someone what i write may have no sense, but what if it does, overall, good to others? then it makes good to You aswell, coz we are on one boat, thats steem(s).

I want openly say that i want to use money from vote sellers, as they are giving it(!)
Why to waste it? Why not to take it and use it to build something worthy for the community?
I wish i got 150k$ now, that i once had, so i could invest in steempower and launch the ideas i have now.
So im willing to use what is given to build SP for further curations and ideas.
I was always seeking to provide value, so people can enjoy, and have fun so we can share it. I guess that matters the most.
And that, by the way, had to provide the means to live.
But since some events, i no longer want more funds just to have them, but to use them on behalf of common good, thats why steemit interests me.
(Have You read "reinventing organisations" by F. Laloux? No hierarchy of man, others the other me)
(...)

And now in addition we pays precisely for every action on the blockchain, as @meno noticed 3 day ago, that itself eliminated vast majority of spam.
But also limit actions of newcomers.
If people realise no one cares about them, AND they have to invest money first, surely they'll leave, and whats worse, they'll speak unfavorably.
(I have seen some videos) So if You want not just masses to come, but to keep the level, we better make something other to do than writing.
I know know, dtube and stuff, dApps, but till that happens let's just lil bit diversify, let's make it flourish
How about games. So the promis can be keept, that they can earn something.
So everyone can actually earn at least a bit, with fun, and quite fast.
Just to make this place really alive, by adding more space with fun, You know where kids can run screaming and play.

If the boost aspekt itself bothers someone,
as i said it can be done without that, but i want to remind that SP is needed to be able to reward others. ("a du-uh")
and its just utilisation of a funds that otherwise would be wasted
If someone is selling his vote, coz have no better idea
then i have? i can take it and use better.
Vest, only to reinvest.
It also brings some risks as those are just bids and nothing guaranteed, but i writed some automat, and had promising average.
So we could build some SP for cool use.

if someone want to see me i can show my self at steemfest,
tho i don't have a ticket.

So as i expound, the reasons, and cited examples of response, that i hope will find recognition and will be appreciated,
along with a positive effect they has on me too, to be able to do this, are an testify for itself that my activity brings good to the people, and would be a loss if i could not continue to work on it.

I find it joyous and perspective for future initiatives for the common good.
Thats why i am asking for consent to allow me to continue that positive action
as i prooved it does no harm, but does good.
is the object of interest of recipients, provides value,
is appreciated, and is encouraging to be interested in the platform, thats so important.
so it does not meet the spam criteria.

i hope thats clarifies raised doubts,
and in the light of evidence,
we can agree it is not a spam, but a personal helpful and friendly message, that allows contact with a real man.

I don't think we are going to be able to get this account off of mack-bot

Oh but If You can stand up for me? lets try: I would like to promise that I will not take any actions contrary to interest of this community.
Therefore i would like to ask @mack-bot @patrice to unblock this account.
And any further actions in the matter i agree to do only after consultation and authorization by older colleagues here.

So i'm reaching my hand to You guys, for Your further support,
As i come from online selling, customer service, self-employed background, and
i'm missing those type of connection when i can offer some support.

Thank You,


about the name, i come up with satirize, mockery wacky names to bring fun, and to show that it doesn't matter, even under crazy name, one can deliver. Thats my private and only account, so i used it for everything.

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