This is where your individualism breaks down.
You cant make your own shoes if you are busy plowing your field or cutting trees for toilet paper pulp, you are gonna need friends.
Its a gift, do what you will.
When you got 500sp i will be back for it.
I guess I still have some work to do here. Back when we were discussing removing social constructs from capitalism this applies broadly. I see delegation as a social construct. In a way it is a limited number of people picking winners and losers.
This manifestation when seen in capitalism is often labeled as a type of cronyism.
Also when the middle wealth is attempting to socially keep the lower wealth subsidized (if only for participation) without it affecting the top tiers it is a type of socialism that continues to spread the costs from the middle downward, to the profit of the highest tiers. It is a type of socialism for those holding the most amount of wealth.
The bottom tiers need to defect out of the system to send the signal to the top tier that what they are doing is unsustainable. If that doesn't happen the middle and bottom tiers get ground down by this type of socialism while those at the top are unaffected(or even continue to profit).
(I would reference the adage about socializing risk and privatizing profit here, but not sure if it actually models the situation that well)
I know you have the heart to want to keep someone, even someone that thinks completely different on board, and it is a testament to your good nature, but I think logically you know that that signal needs to be sent. Talking about the problem is one possibility but defecting is likely the only thing that will bring significant change.
Id be onboard with you, if anybody cared.
You can jump ship, but when the golden nugget falls from the sky, you dont get any.
Your message on the blockchain is more important than being denied entry to the official reindeer games, imo.
You cant plant seeds if you dont plow the ground.
Stinc, et al, has been designed to repel good people, that is our clue to stick to our guns.
You gotta do what you do, though.
Look, we need folks that are not favored by the ninja miners, if we are ever to get control of steem in the service of the common man and not the ruling class.
You are a voice I value, it seems silly to let the love of money silence a creator I value.
Plant your seeds, Joesal, it serves our goal of a freer world.
Leaving lets them win by default.
Yeah, you want things to be based on individual organic value, cool, I dig the shit out of that. But what people are doing here is basically saying "yo, I can't upvote you fifty bucks, but if I could I would, so here's the next best thing."
I understand making a stand, but staying makes a stand too against blockchain commies (holy shit, that's a weird concept...) that you talk to.
@joesal, I'll leave you alone if you tell me to and say you wanna leave. But if you don't wanna leave, I've got ten steem that I can either send you to power up or use to buy you some SBI. Last time I'll pester you about it, but folks want you here.
How about we just give it eight weeks and see if the higher ups haven't reversed their position on the RC thing? My bet is the reduced traffic should signal that there is a problem at the bottom.
freeborn---How about this, undelegate the fifty and we will see if the RC thing gets resolved over the next 8 weeks?
Either way, I appreciate you, and thanks for being generous. In the larger scheme of things, if defection where used against crapitalism, all the bad parts would perish quickly. Defection is a strong tool against some of the more poorly designed social constructs of the world. Defection can be the seed that is sown, it is not where individualism breaks down, but where it derives strength.
If you defect from steem you take one of too few voices out of the mix.
50sp isnt going to make me nor break me, i certainly want to hear voices silenced by the hierarchy, how about you use the rc's to pay me something like interest on my sp?
Maybe use steempeak.com and set me as a beneficiary on a post?
I dont know why you are concerned with my assistance, but if it bothers you too much, i will undelegate.
This is where your individualism breaks down.
You cant make your own shoes if you are busy plowing your field or cutting trees for toilet paper pulp, you are gonna need friends.
Its a gift, do what you will.
When you got 500sp i will be back for it.
I guess I still have some work to do here. Back when we were discussing removing social constructs from capitalism this applies broadly. I see delegation as a social construct. In a way it is a limited number of people picking winners and losers.
This manifestation when seen in capitalism is often labeled as a type of cronyism.
Also when the middle wealth is attempting to socially keep the lower wealth subsidized (if only for participation) without it affecting the top tiers it is a type of socialism that continues to spread the costs from the middle downward, to the profit of the highest tiers. It is a type of socialism for those holding the most amount of wealth.
The bottom tiers need to defect out of the system to send the signal to the top tier that what they are doing is unsustainable. If that doesn't happen the middle and bottom tiers get ground down by this type of socialism while those at the top are unaffected(or even continue to profit).
(I would reference the adage about socializing risk and privatizing profit here, but not sure if it actually models the situation that well)
I know you have the heart to want to keep someone, even someone that thinks completely different on board, and it is a testament to your good nature, but I think logically you know that that signal needs to be sent. Talking about the problem is one possibility but defecting is likely the only thing that will bring significant change.
Id be onboard with you, if anybody cared.
You can jump ship, but when the golden nugget falls from the sky, you dont get any.
Your message on the blockchain is more important than being denied entry to the official reindeer games, imo.
You cant plant seeds if you dont plow the ground.
Stinc, et al, has been designed to repel good people, that is our clue to stick to our guns.
You gotta do what you do, though.
I do hope it rains the nuggets for you, that just hasn't been my experience when models are doing this particular thing.
Usually the top tier shifts the nuggets to some other model and all that remains is dust.
Is there any way to transfer the 50 back to you?
Only if I undelegate it.
Look, we need folks that are not favored by the ninja miners, if we are ever to get control of steem in the service of the common man and not the ruling class.
You are a voice I value, it seems silly to let the love of money silence a creator I value.
Plant your seeds, Joesal, it serves our goal of a freer world.
Leaving lets them win by default.
^^^Fucking THIS^^^
Yeah, you want things to be based on individual organic value, cool, I dig the shit out of that. But what people are doing here is basically saying "yo, I can't upvote you fifty bucks, but if I could I would, so here's the next best thing."
I understand making a stand, but staying makes a stand too against blockchain commies (holy shit, that's a weird concept...) that you talk to.
@joesal, I'll leave you alone if you tell me to and say you wanna leave. But if you don't wanna leave, I've got ten steem that I can either send you to power up or use to buy you some SBI. Last time I'll pester you about it, but folks want you here.
How about we just give it eight weeks and see if the higher ups haven't reversed their position on the RC thing? My bet is the reduced traffic should signal that there is a problem at the bottom.
Can do man. I'll stick the 10 steem in savings and we'll give it some time.
freeborn---How about this, undelegate the fifty and we will see if the RC thing gets resolved over the next 8 weeks?
Either way, I appreciate you, and thanks for being generous. In the larger scheme of things, if defection where used against crapitalism, all the bad parts would perish quickly. Defection is a strong tool against some of the more poorly designed social constructs of the world. Defection can be the seed that is sown, it is not where individualism breaks down, but where it derives strength.
Being here is defection from crapitalism.
If you defect from steem you take one of too few voices out of the mix.
50sp isnt going to make me nor break me, i certainly want to hear voices silenced by the hierarchy, how about you use the rc's to pay me something like interest on my sp?
Maybe use steempeak.com and set me as a beneficiary on a post?
I dont know why you are concerned with my assistance, but if it bothers you too much, i will undelegate.
Interest is a social construct. Ha! (I don't think you yet realize how far that model goes.)
Go ahead and undelegate it, if I am back in eight weeks, I will just pull my bootstraps up and make hay of it.