Opinions on Minds vs Steemit?

in #steemit7 years ago

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Anyone have thoughts on the comparison between Steemit and Minds? Pro's and Con's?
I am on both and like different features for each. What are your thoughts?

Steemit

  • Earn crypto for involvement, posts, and upvotes. Clear rewards for each post and comment
  • Strong and growing community. Entertaining. Secure design.
  • Tough to get started earning Steem for new users
  • Interface, especially for posting, is difficult but slowly improving

Minds (just joined, so take that into consideration)

  • Interface is easy to post blogs and especially for short posts w/link. Really like that, similar to LinkedIn
  • Pretty mature interface, even out of the gate. A great start.
  • Rewards seem unclear. Been posting and still don't understand if or when someone gets rewards
  • Setup for accounts, instructions for hashtags, etc. is vague. I expect the on-boarding process will improve over time

I have been a long-time member of Steemit (and love it), brought in over a dozen people, and continue to be a great fan, I do like some of the features of Minds.com The ability to do a quick post, by dropping in a web link and adding some thoughts/comments, is huge to me. I do this often in LinkedIn about cybersecurity news articles and recent events. I would like Steemit to add this feature as well.

Anyways, what are your thoughts and experiences? Is anyone also trying out Minds?

Minds is at www.minds.com

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Steemit was the leader in tying cryptocurrency benefits for participation, into a social media platform. Obviously, it is successful. Others will now try to improve on the model, creating competition. Overall competition is good, as it brings out the best in options for users. I think Minds is just one of many on the horizon that will try this model. Very interested to see who can adapt fastest to provide the most valuable and rewarding platform. Will Steemit go the way of MySpace and AOL?

Things move fast on the Internet. This is a very strong community. I don't believe Steemit will just fold-up. I think it will continue to drive expectations and compete. The big question is what these new players will potentially bring to the game and if the Steemit model of consensus will enable it to remain a leader?

I'll tell you why a big reason that Steemit is losing ground at the moment.......because when people try to sign up for Steemit they have a HUGE waiting list ahead of them and must wait for MONTHS to get an account approved. So far I have been waiting about 7 weeks! .....And a lot of people are complaining about this on the Steemit chatroom. I would also assume that, most people will simply give up and forget about Steemit after about a week of waiting.

Had not considered that aspect. I have been on Steemit for ages and never experienced the sign-up issues. I will say that Minds was easy to sign-up, but there was confusion about setting up a crypto account (many options), and payouts are completely not understandable. So it also has some issues, as is expected for any new social media site. I do like they handle links, pictures, and videos much better.

Interesting i just had my son sign up a few months ago and it was less than a day. Curious how long the wait is in general

That is great news! From all the horror stories, I figured the wait was weeks or something.

Had the same problem with anoying waiting time

I played with Minds a while ago, but I got very little engagement from others. I know a few Steemit people cross-post there, but I don't know how it goes for them. Some of the top Minds people seem to do better than I did. I just don't have time to do multiple sites and I've built something here already.

I know Minds just updated their site, but I've not felt the need to go back. They did have some nice features, including private chat. The Steemit site still looks a bit old-school in comparison, but then we have alternatives like Busy.

I think it has potential. Need to play around with it for a bit, when I have some free time. I want to give it a fair shake.

@stevevc > "I just don't have time to do multiple sites"

I'm #newhere on SteemIt, and have been using Minds.com for a few months now. I agree with your assessment that posting on multiple sites is a nuisance, and I have been pestering the Minds staff to set up an #IFTTT service so that I can crosspost more easily between various social media sites. I see similarly that there is no IFTTT service available yet for SteemIt. However, one big advantage I see immediately of SteemIt over Minds is that I can link to individual replies here, where Minds limits us to only linking to the opening post of a thread.

I do find it rather ironic though that these "Facebook killer" sites like SteemIt and Minds mainly only provide automated social sharing to FB and Twitter. I see SteemIt also automates sharing to Reddit. Having an IFTTT service would provide an abstraction layer, allowing us to share (even bi-directionally) from/to SteemIt with any other online site which also has an IFTTT service. I think this needs to be considered by these new sites, and thought given to how to allow such automated cross-posting without gaming the crypto.

It's not too much work to copy posts across sites, but then you need to deal with responses. The thing is that I never had many on Minds. I've got enough going on here to keep me busy and it's fun

They should make minds.com simpler. The simpler the better. Someone likes a person's post, they get a notification. This is positive reinforcement that is enough for most people. The easier to use the better. Minds' points system is helluva confusing.
Steemit is the same. I don't understand how it works.

I suppose trying to find that balance between function and ease is difficult. I am more familiar with Steemit, so it seems easier. Still getting used to Minds.

Lol, it's on Ethereum. Enough said.

True, but if the social site is successful, does it matter how the users are compensated?

If compensation for content creation is your selling point, I'd say it matters a whole lot. The ethereum network cannot handle it, let alone the costs it would incur in transactions if it were capable of handling it.

They have said that about Bitcoin for many years, yet still it persists. You may be right, but I don't discount the imaginative devs and their desire to find solutions.

Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Steem are three entirely different codebases/ideas/platforms entirely. I'm speaking technically, a social platform on top of Ethereum isn't sustainable or even worth pursuing. There's a lot of pie in the sky people out there that aren't think about the big picture. You have a lot of front end devs wanting to "revolutionize," stuff by throwing popular (ethereum) blockchain stuff at things. It doesn't work that way. If they were smart, they'd take a step back and develop against EOSIO.

They have an on chain wallet and off chain wallet option.
The rewards are not real time but get distributed end of day from a pool. This mitigates the scaling challenge quite successfully. Seems like they have done an amazing job at figuring this out :)

it's always hard to start. so many people quit. and someone already the fourth month held))))

Thanks for the insight and comparison between Minds and Steemit I might have to check out Minds for myself

I started with Sola. Next, I tried Steemit and D-Tube but 2 days ago is when I got on Minds.... Mind blown!

I am not motivated by the crypto currencies. I really could care less. I am an activist and my speech is censored on other platforms. Free speech is why I started looking at decentralized social media.

As much as I like Steemit, I have to give the edge to Minds. It has ease of use to where an elderly person could use it. There are no games or waiting to get signed up. Steemit is so bad with sign ups that I had to resort to buying my way in. D-Tube sucks. I'll come right out and say it especially when all I get is "unknown error" messages on both the apps and the actual web site.

In the end, I can do everything that I used to do on Facebook ( before killing my account and deleting the FB app from my phone which saves a ton of space BTW). I can upload videos and it just friggin works. There is up and down voting and not just "UP". The conversations are about something other than the platform where as everyone on Steemit is taking about Steemit to the point where I wouldn't even mind a damn cat video or photo of your breakfast.

You don't get a tool to talk about the tool. You get a tool to do work, to do something with the tool. Decentralized media is supposed to be a tool for free speech not a never ending infomercial for the tool.

Finally, the bots is another issue. I get the trying to earn crypto thing and I am NOT in anyway trying to disparage people who are into that but I came here for political speech. I have something like 200-300 followers and maybe 2 of them are real people. I also follow the same amount and again maybe 2 are real.

If you are coming to Steemit for the steem then it is great. That is totally fine.

If you actually have something to say and you want to engage in debate, show off some videos and snaps then maybe Minds would be better for you.

Love this comment. How ironic I found the best review of minds on steemit bahahha! :-)
You can find me as SilverWolf8 on minds ;-)

Definitely agree that this is the best comparison review of Steemit and Minds that I have been able to find so far.