My Announcement March 15 2017
Yesterday Dan Larimer resigned as CTO of Steemit. Steemit will go on, but I’ll be honest... today has been a stressful day. Dan has an unusual history, so while we can't say we expected this, it was a possibility we had planned for.
The truth is, Jeffrey Paul (@sneak) has been the driving force behind development for the past 3 months. While this whole affair is emotionally painful, development is actually ahead of schedule thanks to Jeffrey and of course our amazing team of developers. He’s the right person to head development in the interim as we transition into the future.
I won’t lie; there are big changes coming. After processing these events, I believe this is the best thing for Steemit Inc, and most importantly for the community growing here on Steemit.com.
Quotes from The Mythical Man-Month by Frederick P. Brooks, Jr.
thats a very clever quote @inertia, always a delicate intelligence that says what needs to be said , at the right time and in the best way possible !! upvoted this comment )
Thank you, I appreciate your kind words.
No problem @inertia !! at this strange and difficult time you managed always to be the quiet unassuming voice of reason, I appreciate it greatly and it would seem from the upvotes your comment made , so do many others in this Great Community of Steem )
lol
Thanks, this may help explain some things.
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Thanks for the message, @ned.
Good luck @ned!
I'm rooting for you and the dev team to succeed, even if my posts don't always express that.
Let me know if you're ever in need of some steemit propaganda comics for marketing ;)
Thank god Ned's not dead, I invested my life's savings. You think that YOU had a stressful day.
I don't know if it's too late to say: don't invest more than you can afford to lose..
well people put their life on the line for what they believe in. Sure it's a bad business policy, but I thought this was about bringing change not profits.
I think this everyone should know from the beginning! I mean, when you invest money there is always a chance to lose!
That chance is much lower if u hold sbd :)
Yes, but if you want to have much vote power you need to invest in steem! :D
True that :)
; - ) yes but now would have been a better time than when i did !! I am still kicking myself for having jumped in like the beginner i was !! )
The peppers will do what we can to get that investment to pay of for you!
You got rich today! Congrats
LOL, I am always remembering your earlier posts on this and your votes and support @dimimp
Perspective for all of us!
To be honest, as a shareholder of Steem (which is licenced by Steemit Inc.) I expected some kind of explanation why this happen. From my point of view explanation is not given.
what doesn't matter because this code doesn't belong to us. If someone would like to introduce new changes which will be good for whole community but bad for Steemit Inc., that would be impossible to do that legally.
Steem code base has to be fully open-source and have open licence.
That license, which Dan came up with, has been there since day 0. That is as long as any of us have opted into participating. In the long run, I would see the license change, but not now.
That certainly sheds a different light on his (deleted) post about wanting Steem to be open source. It is okay that he changed his mind about it, but to portray Steemit as some sort of enemy of freedom by having a restricted license given that he came up with the license seems misleading at best.
That's the best thing I've heard all day.
But again, we have to trust you, @ned. In a world of trustless cryptographically secure systems and provably secure smart contracts, asking for trust is a lot to ask.
Completely feel you on this and perhaps something can be done to assuage the concern. from my pov I am relying on DPoS, and not on Steemit or me. Witnesses can be anonymous and the system runs whether Steemit tries to be part of it or not... I'm glad we are though.
Thanks Ned. I appreciate your community involvement today, especially when it's been such a stressful one. That speaks volumes about your character and your commitment to the future.
Not like the PoW projects, actually DPOS is based on trust. We have been trusting from the beginning.
That's a valid point, but PoW has other problems, which I'm sure you're aware. With Bitcoin, as an example, we now have to trust the large mining firms/guilds not to collude together for their own benefit. We have to trust changes will be implemented that benefit everyone instead of being stalled by the powerful. I remember a point in time where a large mining guild decided to split up (against their own short term interests) because the community was too concerned with the percentage of hashing power they controlled. I was glad they did it, but it reminded me how much trust is still involved in PoW as well, even if it's trust that those involved will remain rational actors for their own long-term self interest. At least with DPOS there's a mechanism for making that trust transparent with a voting process everyone can participate in.
FYI - https://steemit.com/license/@timcliff/update-license-md-to-reflect-views-of-steemit-inc-expressed-by-sneak-lawyer-help-requested
Yep, reading it now. :)
the problem is.. that you can be hit by a bus and your opinion will not help us then.
Absolutely. Competition and outside innovation under a GNU/BipCot/Creative Commons license benefits everyone, including Steemit.
This is crypto not stock its how we do.
https://steemit.com/license/@timcliff/update-license-md-to-reflect-views-of-steemit-inc-expressed-by-sneak-lawyer-help-requested
Any comments on @dan 's latest post?
https://steemit.com/steem/@dantheman/making-steem-really-open-source
The one that he deleted for some reason.
I asked him to. Why? Because I thought it didn't reflect reality very well and was a bad post for everyone because of that.
LOL. Did you heard about Barbra Streisand effect? Moreover, this is blockchain bro - what was written into blockchain, stays on the blockchain forever :) Now everyone will read it, because it is like forbidden fruit - but personally I think it will be good for community to understand how important it is to have solid foundation - proper licence which empowers progress and innovation.
I helped write a bunch of this code, you think I don't know the data is still there? But the retraction by the author has meaning.
It's inevitable that the license will get tweaked with time, but a change to an MIT license now is not going to help Steem holders.
@blocktrades I'm replying over here due to comment depth limits and I'm replying to this...
I'm speaking from experience here. That is a colossally bad idea.
You'd be much better going with http://www.authorize.net/solutions/merchantsolutions/merchantservices/echeck/
That way it's instant clearing and greatly reduced risks of chargebacks. Also I wouldn't even accept that unless you have the appropriate AML/KYC measures in place. Jumio is good for this.
Namaste!
I know that you know, and I believe, that you know that I know that you know :)
For me it is just funny how anyone can say that post was deleted (what is misleading for newbies) where in fact new version was published.
Yes, fair enough, deleted isn't the correct word, it's just stuck in my brain because that's what was put there in it's place.
Are you all gonna take prepaid cards any time soon?
I've even given up id and still can't buy btc or steem.
I'm thinking about accepting checks, that would eliminate fees from credit cards and from fiat->btc fees. But we would need to add in enough lead time to make sure the check can't be cancelled (well, we could make exceptions for small amounts and good customers). But we need to add some more code on the backend to support it as well.
Is there a possibility that you will accept gold GAU as payment to buy Steem?
Through say, Goldmoney?
@freebornangel @blocktrades
Oddly enough I support you in that decision, the crapitalust interest lies in the scarcity model, if more steemits were out there toooooo many folks would jump ship.
I also support @dan in his need to be Dan the Man!!
Yes, forks right now would cause a real mess, and there's plenty of opportunists who would try it I think. I was lucky enough to be standing on the sidelines of the ETH/ETC fiasco...
How would I run a check without a brick and mortar check?
Will they run from my card?
Too bad there isn't some local btc here, I'd sure face to face some btc to an address of your's.
Fuck the Steem holders. This is a blogging platform, not an investment fund.
(y) to that!
O wait, no cool emot for us yet :P
Clearly @dan has some regret posting it...If he felt strongly the information needed to be out there he would have left it out there.
Or maybe I understand Streisand effect.
Dan, I applaud your choice to stand up for your values in the most direct of ways. I'm also saddened as a stakeholder of this project and concerned about those that are working full time for it (the team you've left behind).
I think that the existing license is a protection for Steem holders against the big fish in the social media industry. I think it is a pragmatic protection that could be lifted after a network effect is achieved. I'm guessing that isn't the only reason for your leaving and look forward to gazing upon your future works.
+5%
The thick plottens! Hahah.
Edit: Or, he was asked to.
What a turn of event.
He's right. My last post was a streisand effect.
Here is the deleted post by Dan
https://steemit.com/steemit/@walden/dantheman-last-deleted-post-making-steem-really-open-source
What part of the post was wrong? Wouldn't it be more useful to post your counter arguments and have a productive discussion? Hmm, if only we had some sort of censorship free forum where we could talk about these things....
I plan to submit a revised pull request tonight to include text that allows what @sneak said is allowed. (No guarantee it will be approved though. We'll see.)
Interesting, let me know where it's at when you do.
Here is an update: https://steemit.com/license/@timcliff/update-license-md-to-reflect-views-of-steemit-inc-expressed-by-sneak-lawyer-help-requested
It's not only censureship free, it's also resistant to edits, as has been proven by resurrection of a post that the author changed his mind about posting... It's not about counter-arguments in this case, it's I didn't feel it was an accurate portrayal of history. I think Dan agreed, so he deleted it.
my question got answered here.
where you refering to the deleting part? like asked dan to delete it?
Off the topic @surpassinggoogle Thanks for filling up my wallet with your generous gift of 1000 STEEM . Thank YOU !
@surpassinggoogle
Perfect !!!
yes, I asked him to delete it/retract it/whatever (see my comments above for more details)
I find this an extraordinary stance @blocktrades contrary to everything that most anyone with any presence of mind here, as far as I can tell, believes in - but I will speak for myself - why would any one (authority) ask any other conscientious person to censor themselves? I do not know the nature of the relationships of key players on this platform, and nor should I necessarily care, but censorship and prevailing upon others points of view do not seem worthy of the ecosystem I am subscribing to. I can only interpret that Cap'n @Dan himself acquiesced and so is complicit - but this feels rotten at the core and those of us interested in building transparent, ownership free community, striving for integrity, are left scratching our heads ...?
Here is the "deleted" post by Dan...
https://steemit.com/steemit/@walden/dantheman-last-deleted-post-making-steem-really-open-source
Thank you ned, I really appreciate your prompt response and confirmation that Steemit will go on. I believe everyone who met @sneak at Steemfest will agree that he is eager and capable to develop the platform.
That brings me to the next point, after all this stress we need a party to shake it off (the Stress), so lets have another @Steemfest asap.
Thank you for your kind words and support.
I certainly agree with that.
Won't lie, I woke up to the news and I've been hitting F5 all day watching for your response.
So thank you , @ned, for communicating something to us. And thank you, @sneak for following that statement up with community support.
I don't care to hear the details of what happened between the Steemit, Inc. team and @dan. Those things are between all of you and are unimportant to what Steem/Steemit is now and what it will become. I wish @dan the best in his future endeavors (which I will be keeping an eye out for) and I truly hope that he will pop in from time to time - even if it's just to judge @fibra59's meme challenge. Haha
Your promises for big changes and your honesty to the community have given me a boost in confidence and a new level of hope in this platform. I see so much potential in this platform and truly hope that you guys keep pushing forward until that potential is reached and surpassed.
I hope that your groundshaking updates and changes come as swiftly and easily as possible and I wish you, @sneak and the rest of the dev team the best of success - both on this platform and in real life!
Thanks for everything, guys! Stay awesome.
Thank you for the update @ned, I also believe that Steemit will go on... we have a great community and, like Bitshares, Steemit will prevail.
I am also sure @dan will go on to do great things for the blockchain environment, so this could very well be a win-win situation.
Cheer up, tomorrow would be a new day!
Let's hope we can recover and this isn't the final chapter. I'm very sad for the fracture. And I'm really let down by the whole community management aspect, experimenting and all, this platform has degenerated from a place where freedom reigns and communication breathes, to a bunch of kids running around posting memes.
Release the flood gates,
In @ned we trust!
I actually do trust in @ned and @sneak