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RE: Why I Flag ozchartart

in #steemit8 years ago

I think vote negation is better handled at a post-level than an account level. For instance if you negated @berniesanders' votes you would be crippling the Curie curation guild.

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The veil of "good" that those who do wrong hide behind.

The person who owns @berniesanders is not some evil cartoon character bad guy. And Dan's disagreements with him doesn't make it so.

He sure types like one. Please go review his comments. (on the block chain)

Doing wrong isn't a permanent state. Indeed.

I'm stealing that quote and tattooing it on my first born child.

Know what's ironic about that? I wrote a post supporting vote negation that @berniesanders upvoted for a tick due to a curation guild. He realized it later and removed his upvote.

Yeah, that's a fair point. Maybe after some time has passed, we can now revisit some of the arguments about negation, but on a post-level, rather than an account-level. I would entertain such arguments.

The argument is here, in this post. Dan's downvoted posts that others have upvoted. That's the negation.

You're such a smarty-pants!

Suppose a post is sitting at a $100 pending payout and a whale up votes it to $1000 with a single vote. Other whales see that as abusive and place a counter acting down vote restoring it to $100 pending payout. The abusive whale will get the vast majority of the $25 curation rewards on that post.
When it comes to curation rewards the system is currently unbalanced. There is no way to negate the profits of abusive curators."

Link: https://steemit.com/steem/@dantheman/negative-voting-and-steem

How would it cripple curie? I noticed they don't have bernie or nextgens votes on almost any of their supported posts. He only upvotes the curie post which should really be declining payout too imo.

Most of Curie's stake comes from the @berniesanders and related accounts. Without them, the votes would not be as high powered. It was his stake that founded Curie.

and wht does he get in return? I don't think its fair to represent this as pure charity

Then why does his vote not appear on steemd?

I could be missing how curie works

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Curie is not upvoting their own posts with their full available stake right now. But some posts that are voted by Curie get a berniesanders upvote.

So I'm not wrong. He's not even part of the guild, he just does what any of us could do, go through the curie promoted links and select the ones he wants to upvote. From what I checked it wasn't a lot of them! Just some as you say. And this is the good deed everybody jumps to in his defence? That he sometimes upvotes curie promoted posts?? And his charge is to be the first to upvote curie posts every single day for curation reward.

Nice. Sure Ned votes for those posts as often if not more often than him!

No need for vote negation when you can follow and flag every upvote someone makes with a bot

That too. In that case at least things are more on the surface and visible.