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RE: Happy Holidays From Steemit!
Since you have stopped creating free accounts:
You should at least update the steem.io webpage to remove the free account creation option. I'm sure there are a bunch wanting to sign up that are on backlog.
Steemit is still creating accounts, just not as many:
from @penguinpablo's daily posts.
Last time I told a user from another platform to check out Steem he got his account created the same day through Steemit.
This seems like you are guessing.
@acidyo and @inertia It was me that first brought this all to light and I am not spreading fake news, i'm trying to be proactive and have action taken by raising it as a red flag before it does become a problem.
Since the lay offs the accounts created by steemit inc has dropped considerably. Its not that long ago so before it becomes as problem, don't you think we should try and address it? From the post I did on it the other day, which is not fake news as I pulled the data myself, the comments suggest this is a serious problem and people are waiting too long and losing interest.
With the drop in crypto prices, im sure there has been a drop in demand, however looking at the % accounts created by steemit inc, it was over 80% in Oct and Nov. its no where near that now. working back from these figure I would guesstimate a backlog of about 1100 accounts.
This has been noticed very fast, and we have an opportunity to make sure it does not become a problem. I think removing the sign up for free is not a bad idea. Lets not give potential new users or investors the wrong impression and leave them wondering why they haven't got their accounts, lets be proactive, and hopefully we can also help reduce the pressure from steemit inc so they can focus on what they need to do.
I would love to see other dapps take charge on setting up free accounts, but we would need steem.com to link to these and its a big undertaking too for the apps.
@fitinfun that was a great reply :-)
I don't really care. You sign up for a free account, you get what you pay for. Dapps are taking charge, they just aren't doing it for free. Apparently doing so is unsustainable and problematic.
I will not get worked up over free account creation. There's a lot of talk in the dapps community over the idea of creating free off-chain accounts and only putting them on-chain once they prove their worth. I like that idea much more.
As for the button, yeah, it'd be nice if it was removed or was changed to "Free, with Unspecified Delay." But why now? Because of missing spikes on some report? We don't even know what those spikes really were.
As if half of the world would be waiting to join Steem(it). Most of the potential new users must be convinced first to join. Often I say: "Why not just try it out as it is for free anyway?" Most of the users I brought to Steem(it) wouldn't have joined if the first thing they had to do is to pay for an account.
I agree with you, I have a difficult time getting friends to try Steemit. I have one friend that is a very active poster on Facebook, I have tried several times to just get Her to give Steemit a try. She would add so much with her posting! Put a cost on accounts and limit her ability to interact with limited RC she would just laugh at Steemit. We need to give the people what they want, a social platform that welcomes people not a good old boys club that closes the door to new people!
@silvertop Same prob here-not just recently, but the whole time I have been here. Just wrote about this.
Absolutely @melbookermusic, there are too many technically skilled and not enough average posters. Most people just want it to be simple, and to be able to post. Tell a newbie he can’t post anymore because his RC is low and he will probably just go back to Facebook
Yes, they will. I'm sure they have been for some time now.
Yes, indeed, we are just too arrogant to believe that people would need us (need STEEM). No, we need them! Thus we have to make it as easy and pleasant as possible for them instead to expect a lot of efforts from potential new users. :)
I have to admit, I agree with this.
However, personally, I do care. I feel that some of these paid account creation options only allow cryptocurrency as payment. For many, the STEEM is a gateway for those that don't know anything about cryptocurrency to eventually becoming a cryptocurrency user. Without the free account option, we shut down this gateway for people to learn or even people that only want to uses STEEM purely for the social media aspect.
The off-chain account creation concept may very well be a good alternative solution.
I believe we should remove user onboarding hurdles, not create new ones.
Yes i love that idea too of creating off chain accounts, I think its an awesome idea
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Yeah, whoever can pull that off, fairly, will win.
Well if this reply had been upvoted to the top instead I wouldn't have just given the answer I gave and it surely would've been better than a comment with "hurr durr remove this from the website you liars" while having others upvote the comment to an unrelated post up to the top cause "I got you, bro".
Fair point
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But I guess following 70k people you hear a lot about Steem related stuff. :shrug:
Come on @acidyo... I didn't "have" anyone upvote my comment.
Also:
I expected a more sensible response from you than this.
My bad @socky . I am sorry that people believe I am your imaginary friend. For the record @socky did not have me upvote him or anything.
I will extend this offer to anyone who needs it.
It seems as though I have made @acidyo mad.
For Christmas? Bro hug?
no hugs for me ? :(
I expected you to not only have fake followers.
Is it time to be proactive again?
I guess @socky's point is steemit has never newly approved since a month ago, which is quite unusual (maybe for the first time this year? not sure though). Anyway, it's not like steemit approves everyday, they only approve every 2-3 weeks, which is clearly shown as big spikes. That's why some people got their account within a day if they're lucky to apply near the next approval day. I guess currently steemit doesn't wanna (or cannot) spend money for verification temporarily.
Hope steemit can get back to normal soon. Happy Holidays!
It was explained to me once that the reason why they don't just allow all the accounts is because the Steem developers and witnesses are afraid of "Sybil Attacks", which is basically when someone gets a bunch of different accounts to abuse (they pretend like they're a bunch of different people to be more influential, or to be able to vote more for themselves).
But honestly, I think they should be more afraid of the paid-vote bots. The paid voting system makes it nearly impossible for new users to grow. IMHO the Steem devs and witnesses should seriously re-examine their priorities.
When I told them that, they basically said they didn't care about my concerns because other people had invested more into Steem than I did, and those people's opinions were more valuable to the SteemIt leadership than mine were.
It's like they don't care if Steem goes down in flames as long as they get their short-term kickbacks.
I'm not guessing. Here are examples from Steem.chat
I'm only referring to the free accounts.
Those existed when they were more actively creating accounts too, it has been a common problem for so long.. :(
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Typical socky type behaviour isn't it no brains just parroting rubbish spreading lies.
Rock on Steemit if you don't like it you know where to go 🙃
I got you on this one. Top comment for a bit anyways.
You just upvote fake news without checking if it's true?
Perhaps they just skipped one of their cycles and the next batch of accounts will be approved any day now. @exyle is also reporting that Steemit Inc has stopped creating free accounts. @penguinpablo publishes the data. The batch processing of new free accounts are not being performed.
People are asking about what is going on with the approval process on Steem.chat
I'm not trying to spread fake news. I would like for Steemit Inc to at least make an effort to keep people from getting frustrated and giving up before they have had a chance to try STEEM.
Here ya go @inertia . Is it still fake news? I don't know. You guys are both smarter than me. I find that @socky is pretty spot on with stuff so I will trust he has done his research. If it is fake news then I am sure steemitblog will be able to address it quickly and thoroughly.
We have no information about the previous spikes. For all we know, those spikes were from a backlog that is now empty.
I didn't mean to start a disagreement. I'm just pointing out something that should be addressed. I believe Steemit Inc provides notifications that accounts have been approved/verified by email or text. It seems like they should send out a message to those in the queue that they have stopped creating accounts and provide a list of other account creation options. The free account option on the website should be taken down.
thanks, I think it is good and bad at the same time. On one hand, this drives others to create accounts which improves decentralization. On the other hand, people who don't know better are left waiting for an unknown amount of time which doesn't provide a good experience. I think the website should at least reflect that free accounts are no longer available or on some sort of moratorium.
"I think the website should at least reflect that free accounts are no longer available or on some sort of moratorium."
Yes, I agree. And while we're at it, the entire FAQ (and the rest of the site) is about 2 years out-of-date. None of the info given to new users is current or correct.
Good point. I've had issues with their FAQ page long ago about being out of date and inaccurate.
Hello @socky and the other steemians. I have seen these articles late, but I think that my analysis recently could be a good reference for this issue.
STEEM status and some doubt based on account creation statistics
The percentage of strange accounts that have been created since June this year, but have no signs of use at all, increased sharply. Maybe this fact is partly related to the issues you raised.
Enjoy Christmas and New Year.