Blacklists for good
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we need to get @cheetah and @sherlockholmes to make the list public in a post and then people can mute the offenders.
All Great ideas you raise here
I really like the idea of the browser extension to highlight those misusing the site, I hope someone sees this with the skills to be able to and the motivation to build such an extension
I agree that there should be counter measures. However, you would need very clearly lay out what are blacklist actions. The problem with blacklists are that more and more actions which were once "okay" later become blacklisted by whoever has the power to blacklist.
As a community, let's do it. But, let's also be clear!
I meant to mention that there ought to be some way to appeal. I'll add that to the post. I said we should be able to select who compiles the lists we use as they may use different rules
I love the idea. For now you can follow and mute the person. Haven't tried it so not sure how that feature works.
Surely we can find a way to penalize the abusers. But they will always find a new way. Make a new account or whatever.
Best thing we can do is stick together as a community and ignore these people. Not only through not upvoting and sharing their garbage content but also flag them and spread the word to fellow steemians when you see such posts so we can all flag them if we feel they are abusing the system.
So not sure we need new rules, we need to do better as a community in disrupting their income and they will stop or lose money.
Great post and thoughts. Im not a developer so cant help other than lending opinions.
I hope we can find a resolution to this problem as well. Thanks for posting!!
As individuals we don't have time to check the lists manually, but such a tool would indicate to you whether an account was dodgy. Then it's up to you how you act. I know some people don't like flagging, but it is a tool to cancel out rewards for bad behaviour.
Yep. 100% correct!!
when someone is in the blacklist he get a direct downvote and a comment to warn from chetaah
It's up to individuals how they want to react to such accounts. I know some don't like to flag, but they can mute.
I really love this idea @steevc, I hope someone can make it a reality!
I have found some users coming to my post and making comments which are practically not relevant with the post itself and making more money than the post itself and not even upvoting the post! Crazy indeed!
Something need to be done quickly as this abuse is growing each and everyday!
Thanks for raising this important subject man!
@progressivechef
I never heard of such a blacklist, from where did you hear ? As far as I see, its more like a platform, where people can also invest to have more power and make their posts popular. For example, one can create as many accounts as he wishes, by paying the account creation fee, and then use those accounts to make the post popular.
So now its more like a game of having more power based on investment.
I've seen Cheetah mention the list they keep. People are creating multiple accounts to vote up their own posts and this can be detected. If you know it's happening then you can choose to flag them. If Steemit is seen as a cesspit of abuse then people will be put off joining, but the community can deal with the issues and is already doing so.
No one can know, for sure. I have seen some account, but there is no system, which can prove that they are meant for making their own post popular. And whom do I prove is also another question.
All my frustrations came because of my experience in the chat, I have never asked anyone for a vote exchange or ask to upvote, and I was asking a general question in the chat. But a powerful guy (don't want take his name, as I don't want to be like him) told me there is no way you can success in Steemit now without investing. Though I am not discouraged but I felt bad.
Nobody knows it all. You can succeed anyway. It is just harder than when it started
@steevc I see you have your own site. I came across the below post which talks about a new coin, so wanted to share, if you want to use it. May be if you have may followers, it can be helpful to start playing with something.
https://steemit.com/news/@dragosroua/jsecoin-mining-crypto-currencies-in-or-with-your-browser
Hmm, not sure it's for me. I don't do much with my site
I know for sure i invented new technology device which finds out who has more than 1 account . So be careful don't make more than 1
meep
I will not, because its really painful to maintain more than 1 :). However, I am taking steemit to public to bring more people so that they can support me. I will invest and create account for them instantly, because so far that has been the biggest frustration to whomever I persuaded to join steemit.
I have created a tag even for that.
https://steemit.com/blog/@sanjeevm/planning-to-take-steemit-beyond-steemitlive-is-borne-this-day
Yeah without investment, it is a herculean task to succeed here now.
It will be like the adblocker extension by chrome so we do not see any annoying ads there. I really love your idea for the extension and soon we will be seeing it happen very soon.
Community-run blacklists are an interesting idea. I'd only want it if we intentionally have multiple ones to keep any one list from becoming too powerful - elsewise whoever runs the blacklist may have the power to destroy a Steemian's reputation with a single click.
I think it would be great to select the set you want to use with an option to whitelist people
Maybe we can implement something like karma into the Steemit.
The lower karma of user, more penalties he gets. It is a very popular solution in games. Did not think it through entirely, but I hope you get the direction I am aiming at.
Isn't that something like our reputation? That doesn't affect income, but it could be taken into consideration. A lot of spammers have a really low rep due to to flags
No, I would say reputation is like level - you grow with a time because you comment, post articles etc.
But karma is something like - the attitude of others towards you. If you have been rude to someone the whole day they can vote for to downgrade your karma and because of that some of your options will be locked. In steemit it could be less earning or for example inability to write comments or post articles.
Steemit reputation is based on how people vote for you. It can be destroyed by flagging. You don't gain any extra privileges for a higher rep, but maybe you should. If low rep accounts couldn't post as much it would reduce the spam.
Agreed, it was not the best example to compare reputation and level, since level usually can't be downgraded, but yea, either reputation should have more abilities or there should be implemented another quality for a user which would decrease spam.