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RE: Huge Influx of Bot Followers Is Making My Blood Boil : Either Fix This Sh*t or Let Us...

in #steemit7 years ago

I agree, it's totally out of control. Remember though that we recently learned from the Davemccoy and Lukestokes exchange that Ned views us as labrats and that Steemit doesn't care about the first million users, they only care about the next 100 million. So they're just going to keep working out the kinks on the blockchain while we all struggle with issues from the interface. Honestly, we probably have a better shot of fixing things by petitioning Busy to change things.

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That's a good idea @themanwithnoname. I forget that Busy can do stuff like this too.

What incentive do they have to make things better? Do you know?

I've never thought about it before but I wonder how they earn, they seem to pay out rather than take in.

As @jbn says below, I also believe it was a community project. It was supported and designed to showcase what you can do on the Steem blockchain. The upvote they give is because of their delegation and was to help people get used to using other apps by giving incentive to do so.

Although apps have the ability to charge a portion of the rewards, Busy chooses not to do so. Dtube is one that if you post with them, they might upvote your post, but regardless, they take a 25% fee (I believe that's the number) for using their service to post. It's how they pay for development, I guess. So they could earn, but they choose not to. Might have to do with their deal for the delegation.

Well long may Busy's delegation continue @themanwithnoname. It's a good upvote for me. 😁

You must have quite a few followers then as their upvote is based on the SP of those who follow you. I hope your upvotes continue!

I don't know @themanwithnoname. I'm approaching 1000 but many of those are bots, especially recently.

Also it depends on one's definition of good upvote. I just had a chat with someone who referred to a 0.68 upvote as small. That to be is huge! 😁

Also, I haven't been able to work out how busy decide on their upvotes. They seem to be all over the place for me.

They were much bigger in the past but maybe that's to do with the price of Steem. They were about 17c for the longest time then suddenly jumped to over 60c then over $1 at the end of April and then back to 60c.

Then there's the whole busy pay thing. I don't get how that works either. 😊

I would still classify $0.68 as a good upvote. That's just me though.

I normally get around $0.15 upvote from Busy. I've never seen the $1 ones that you speak of, so you must be doing something right! Good for you!

I don't know anything about busy pay, so can't advise you at all there. If I hear something though, I can try to pass the info along.

Yep. I agree. I had a typo in my comment. I meant to say that $0.68 to me is huge @themanwithnoname. 😁

I hope whatever happened to me in relation to Busy happens to you too soon.

I got what you meant. I figured .68 was still a good-sized upvote. Not sure why my vote is smaller, but that's ok. I just need to get a whale to follow me and I'll be up at $1 with you in no time. :D

Busy.org is more of a community project. Its not an upvote bot. They have created something for community. I dont think earning from it was their top most priority.

I'm personally very grateful to them @jbn. They are one of my most consistent supporters! 😊

I believe that i might have missed out on that conversation between @lukestokes and @davemccoy that you are talking about but suffice to say that they are right. Can we petition busy.org? I dont use busy.org on regular basis since it absolutely sucks on my iPhone 6. Not their fault but yeah, m grabbing a new snapdragon 710 armed phone soon and then probably will shift to busy.org

However it is more than interface problem.. its the problem with blockchain itself. No matter if its busy.org or steemit.com, bot followers / accounts will remain a menace. Its worrysome

Sorry, I couldn't find the link at the time and hadn't tagged them as I didn't want to bring up old business if they had moved on. I found the link though, so here's Luke's post.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@lukestokes/a-comment-reply-turned-into-a-root-post

I would imagine that if the interface changed the rules, that you could prevent someone from following you. I don't think that would have to be at the blockchain level. Then again, I'm not an expert on this topic.

Read the article by Luke and the lack of responsiveness by Steemit will make a lot more sense. It was actually very freeing for me to realize that things aren't "supposed to be better here." It took a lot of the pressure off to help fix things because this interface doesn't matter. It is going to be scrubbed and rewritten anyways.

First of all. My apologies for reading your comment so late. Second of all, you are absolutely right. I have read the article and you are most definitely right ..

It's all good, no worries. Yeah, it was disappointing at first, but once you lower your expectations then everything you get is a bonus, rather than something you're owed... and then you're less likely to get discouraged.