I do not think @ned is the one flagging @masteryoda . The person flagging @masteryoda has chosen him as a scapegoat, because he is the least to bring back retaliation from whales. The other accounts on the list are obviously targeted but not with same fury. It's time we step back and start thinking why these solutions are only a disguise to a worsening problem. I was hoping the two sides would meet at the middle, instead we are pulling further apart. Alienating some would only cause the whole to fracture, and nothing positive comes of it. If killing @masteryoda's account will make steemit a better place then I am all for it, but the truth is it will not.
I was once disillusioned with the idea that whales were the cause of all our problems, I truly no longer believe so. Maybe they are just the convenient hanger we love to stretch our disappointments on.
I said it before, the point of failure is not what people do, it's what people are able to do. You can not give someone power and expect him to use it without any set of rules. If the issues were dealt with on the blockchain, this case and others would not surface.
So now we assign a surrogate to negate @smooth's vote on an account, and with him the votes of 200 other people. @masteryoda quits, the surrogate moves to another account, or will he? How fast can you kill accounts in this fashion?
I had conversations with many people about abuse, and the conclusion is if the whales wanted to abuse the system, they can do much more than you and I think. The best solution was to bring everyone to some sort of agreement, but the path taken was opposite to what common sense dictates.
Farewell @masteyoda , Farewell @rok-sivante , and Farewell @commonsense
" If killing @masteryoda's account"
Hmmm reputation score of 71 with almost 65K in SP. Seems like @masteryoda's account is "healthier" than most. At this point there is no risk of killing his account with a few flags aimed at lowering payouts. The only one killing the account is the owner.
@contentjunkie what is to stop someone from flagging your post's because they think it's overpaid, and what will your response be? Can you tell me what is the pay limit on your posts, and at what point it deserves a flag? $1 - $5 -$1000
You seem to be under the impression I condone the flagging. Let's set the record straight on that. I don't condone the flagging.
If I were in @masteryoda's position I would continue to post automated posts that make me money and let people flag the account since they can't affect it. His rep is 71 after all it's not like those flags are actually affecting anything other than the payout.
If whales began to flag my posts I would make posts about it and try and rally some community support behind me to combat what I felt were bad flags.
Abusive whales could be the end of Steemit if they wanted but the incentives are stacked so they won't.
As to your original point though, this account is not being "killed" so let's not pretend it is.
PS: Here is a stats list I now publish weekly inspired by what @masteryoda was doing. I'm happy with anything it makes. https://steemit.com/steemit/@contentjunkie/weekly-steemit-top-50-power-up-list-oct-8th-oct-14th-2016
Yes I thought it was for the market to decide these things. Also as I stated in the etiquette guide I think it is only fair to say why you flag people when you do it. I'm dismayed by the amount of community infighting we have these days. I was hoping Steemit was different from other places. I hope we don't end up like bitcointalk or reddit.
"I'm dismayed by the amount of community infighting we have these days."
As the price of Steem falls I expect more and more of this.
Sadly I think you are right.
why is @commonsense leaving?
Can't leave, because it was never here. :)
I just made myself his first follower.
i do not think it is all whales. #notallwhales . i think it is a small number of people who are gaming the system and turning all the rest against each other. i have found another account, just today, that has 25 reputation, zero posts, zero followers and zero followed that is having hundreds of thousands of dollars transferred to it and then transferred out of steemit. this does not seem like it is adding value or content. a small number of people are abusing the anonymity here to take value out of the system at disproportionate benefit to themselves. if you just go look around you will see the abuse. this does not include @masteryoda and others who provide valuable services to steemit.
i, for one, value @masteryoda and the content @masteryoda brings (brought) to steemit. i don't begrudge any part of the rewards that i think he deserves. go to the trending page and explian to me how some of these jokers have provided valuable enough content to be rewarded over $50,000 in the last two months. i've gotten over 500 votes in the last 10 posts and i've made 20 something cents. apparently talking about smoking hash in one post is $150 or 600 times more valuable than everything i've done in my last 10 posts. if this is actually so than i deserve not benefiting. we'll see.
i could be wrong here, i don't think i am. if you see something strange, go look at the profile page of the progenitor of the strangeness and see what there is to see.
to the people who are obviously stealing from the rest of us, share some of the wealth with us and maybe i'll think about shutting up. maybe. otherwise, the hunt continues. maybe i should start making everything i post about the corruption that i am finding. i was raised to not be a snitch, but i'm not benefiting from my hard work, so, maybe steemit will find it of value to know the accounts that are being used to steal from them.
oh, and let me preempt the simplistic, predictable response that i'm going to get from people like contentjunkie, who are like these pull string dolls that only say "are you jelly?" grow up, look around you, the world is bigger than the inside of your head.
sorry @joseph this was not directed at you. it just sort of came out here.
Thanks @lifeworship for saying the truth in such powerful words, I really enjoy reading you!
It seems snitches have a bright future here, many of them climbed to the top doing just that, just make sure you snitch in the right direction if you want to succeed :D
I'm calling it a day, this buffoonery have become too morbidly unfunny for my taste.
This one made my day, well said :D
Thanks again!
never give up, never surrender. thank you. cheers.
Is @ sewerrey such an account with zero posts, it has 10.000 steemdollar steempower, i have no clue if that is much or little but he has been flagging erika harris under her artikel; If your vote is your voice.
I'm a layperson in all this internet blockchain stuff, I thought I let you know.
(isn't a sewer a drain? :)
i an not much more than a layperson myself. i have seen a few accounts now with 25 reputation,zero posts, zero followers and zero followed, with over 100,000 steem power, and over $200,0000 transferred from other accounts and then transferred to poloniex. i don't know about @ sewerrey. keep a look out.