I am a victim of unwarranted downvotes from @spaminator and @mack-bot - Please Steemit community, how do I handle this?
I feel obliged to make this post because I need to bring my stituation - and that of others - to the notice of everyone on Steemit. Maybe the community could help me with ideas on how to handle this awkward situation.
A friend of mine first noticed that @spaminator and @mack-bot downvoted my reply on his comments. When I looked at it, that was my first time of noticing it. I shrugged it off as a mistake and forgot about it. But to my greatest surprise, those 2 accounts started downvoting my posts too. From my observation, the two accounts are obviously owned by the same person. And I am not alone in this, when I checked the replies for those 2 accounts, their victims are many - innocent bloggers on steemit that make original articles. So why downvote people's posts when they were not spamming anyone or plagiarising content. Its really disheartening to see someone's effort go up in smoke just because someone has money to invest in Steempower. I cannot fight him on my own and all my pleas - like others - have fallen on deaf ears. I have no other option than to seek the support and suggestion of this amazing community. People that discourage the honest efforts of Steemians do not want the progress of this community and its really dangerous for minnows like us.
If nothing is done here, we will be forced to stop blogging here, but should I give up without a fight? Like I said, I asked him to let me know if I spammed or plagiarized in any way. No response from him other than to continue downvoting my posts. A lot of others that the two accounts downvoted also asked for a reason, but the owner has no reason to give.
So please, everyone, Whales, Witnesses and other influential people on this platform should look into this situation. If you look at my recent posts, I am on a campaign to onboard more people to Steemit. I hope to bring in more people and form a community to encourage and support new people. I make tutorials to teach them how to succeed on this platform. I want to see more activity here and a future where steem grows in value and Steemit becomes a household name. All these nice efforts and vision could be halted on its tracks by @spaminator and @mack-bot. The worst is that he will wait till the posts are few hours to payout, then he will downvote it, giving you no opportunity to make any earnings from that post. Isn't that the height of wickedness and inhumanity?
Call To Action
I need your ideas on how to handle this since appealing to the owner of those accounts did not yield results. If you can, please resteem this post to increase its visibility. Whatever efforts you make to help me - and many others - get out of this ugly situation is highly appreciated.
Thank you in advance for being here for us and supporting us fight abuse, intimidation and freedom of speech!
--- Charles.
My most recent posts downvoted by those two accounts.
Post Link: https://steemit.com/health/@focusnow/keep-you-cool-what-anger-does-to-your-heart-is-terrible
Post Link: https://steemit.com/familysteemiteducation/@focusnow/the-12-lessons-in-life-you-need-to-learnAm not alone in this! Here are the replies of few people downvoted by those two accounts:
Click this link to see the whole replies: https://steemit.com/@spaminator/recent-replies
Click this link to see the whole replies: https://steemit.com/@mack-bot/recent-replies
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I fucking hate downvotes
I agree with you, this are the worst thing of steemit
I am so sorry to hear this. I heard more people are getting downvotes by... and a reason is never given.
What annoys me most of all no one seems to care and you are simply added to a list without checking you out or consulting you first.
@cheetah you might ask how it works?
I find being accused without given a reason/prove and the fact you have to deal with it, figure out how to undo it one of the dirtiest things here.
I hope you find a solutionn (will share the steps you took) and will share it with us. I resteemed and you have my vote.
Do not leave!
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By the time you get to spamminator you have already run a phalanx of curators.
Most have been here from the beginning, or near to it.
https://discord.gg/fmXt87
That is the discord where you should start, imo.
Dear @focusnow, i suggest you to ask for it to @themarkymark, he is a very effective witness and i had same problem with a crazy user which started to downvote my post just because i was posting an answer to a @berniesanders post, after one week this guy stopped to downvote my posts and everything run normally now.
I suggest to visit his page and in its latest post writing about, but he should be your witness of course...
Thanks for your practical support. I will follow up on that.
Please let me know resulta 🙂
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Sorry to hear this, @focusnow.
I'm aware this is a huge problem all over SteemIt these days.
You could try asking in Steemcleaners Discord channel, but if I remember correctly, they don't cover downvotes.
Maybe you could ask @r0nd0n in the @freezepeach Discord server (you'll find a link at the top of the @freezepeach profile page). They deal with downvotes daily... I think that's the best place to get solid advice.
Sincerely, I have followed @focusnow post since I came onboard, it's pure effort and not plagiarism, I came onboard here through @focusnow recruitment campaign. Honestly, Its really painful for ones posts as @focusnow to be downvoted, making the author loose money. If there are disagreements, it should be settled peacefully, instead of downvoting. If this continues, it will lead to the discouragement of many well meaning Steemians like us. This should stop and let everyone enjoy the fruit of their effort.
I am really sorry this is happening to you have you contacted him through the discord? I had this a bit back where are group of people downvoted my content so I stopped and then restarted months later. I really hope you can resolve this matter soon.
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You are not allowed to post on the discord channel. Thanks though for your support.
O right well I hope you get something sorted
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no @focusnow u can post in the discord channel, provided u'd not get blocked by the admin.
I think you should check out steemcleaners on discord and lay your complaint. They have a sction where you can make appeal about mack-boat. Probably someone has reported you based on one or two issues you did.
Just try go there and clearify yourself.
Fount your post via @sirapa resteemed.
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@simplymike offers sound advice. What are the downvote %? This post has a downvote from mack-bot (I will not tag it) is at 0%. It doesn't actually affect you (as of now) I get a constant downvote from camillesteemer. It's a bogus account. I have never had any interaction with this 'person' to my knowledge. It's been 0% so I am not worried even though it is disheartening. This situation is why I am against HF21 and the downvote process. Most of these bots are run by whales to keep the pool in their favor. I foresee a huge range of abuse incoming. Until this can be controlled it's a recipe for disaster. And trying to reach most on discord they usually will yell at you for posting the channel that is label to post issues. I wish you luck. Would like to know how you prevail.
Thanks friend. The one from spaminator is done few hours to payment so that you dont have options thqn to lose out entirely. I suspect foul play. Why run those accounts under cover? Why not come out and say its from Steemcleaners. Anyway, i have answered the alleged offences of multiple account and plagirism. Am waiting for their response. A lot of things need to be addressed here. They are killing Steem and Steemit.
You're right, I think that's part of the reason Steem is volatile currently. I have seen many bloggers with well established blog come to Steemit and leave because of the plagiarism accusations. Criminals are not forthcoming, they hide and lie, even though being honest is the best way to fight anything you are the one treated like a criminal. Stay Strong. Just keep doing what you're doing. It is honestly the best defense. As long as they don't quiet you, you win.
camillesteemer is such an example of a pest here on steemit. The account used to be a part of a collective called Anonymous Steemit Victims Defence League, who was downvoting people, abusing their huge stakes. The community silenced them by taking away the delegations to the accounts. That's why they're powerless now. Which is a good thing. I've seen those accounts flag a newbie's second post ... that's not the first impression you want to make, right?!
I completely agree with you when you say HF21 is a recipe for disaster. I don't see this turn things for the better, unfortunately. But I guess all we can do is brace ourselves, close our eyes and hope for the best :0/
Nothing like diving into dark water huh? I've seen newbie accounts flagged too. We want people to stay not leave. I wish they would understand this. Keeping this activity up is what creates havoc with the prices. I was so happy to hear when their delegations were removed. It is the next best thing to removing them. If people used flagging or a downvote for what it actually is, things would be fine. Not too much happens that really relies on this process. If you don't agree with someone move on. Or have a discussion to understand. I just can't believe how petty some have become. We have money invested why would anyone want to tear that apart?
I don't get it either. I think in many cases, people are just high on power. Money and power... two of the most vicious drugs in the world.... :0(