I am losing more and more faith in the game truthfully. And a lot has to do with the "special" status the Mavs get. What good is the game if it is only 100 people being catered to?(along with them being the only ones playing. My son gained interest again....then lost it after realizing how near impossible it would be to grow his deck. In his words " I'll be like 20 before i have a good cards." I am still playing but I don't know how much longer. Every time they release more new cards, it's another 100s of dollar (if you invest) if you want to have a chance even playing(let alone winning)novice level tournaments. And this is the only real way to build a deck, as daily rewards are a joke any more. I do truly wish for the game to succeed, but i am losing hope.
This is just how any monetary-based system works, and it's also a big part of what differentiates Splinterlands from a traditional game. We cannot both allow the cards to be transferable / sellable and give them away for free. That would be exploited in short order and kill the game as we have seen with a number of other blockchain-based games that don't get this concept.
So yes, any game with transferable / real-valued assets will necessarily be a money game. Do people complain that every time magic the gathering releases a new set of cards you need to spend a bunch of money to purchase them to remain competitive?
We realize this type of game is not for everyone, and that's fine! There are thousands of great games available where you can progress without spending much money, and many of them are much better than Splinterlands right now. But of course they are strictly games and don't offer the financial / collectible elements that blockchain-based or physical games do.
I look at Splinterlands (as well as most blockchain based games) as a combination of an investment vehicle and a game. You can invest in Bitcoin, for example, and you just watch the price and see if it goes up. Similarly you can invest in Splinterlands cards, but you can also have fun with that investment, and earn a return on it by winning more cards/DEC/etc through playing.
But you cannot earn a return on your investment if you haven't made an investment. And obviously the larger your investment, the higher the return you can earn will be.
Regarding your son, here's how i think about this with my son which i think is really cool (and please do not take this as financial advice). I try to save up money for my son (for college or whatever) but i also want to spend money to play games. What's so cool about these types of games is that they can potentially allow me to do both together. I have no idea how this will work out, and i certainly don't put all my money into this, but when i buy assets in a blockchain-based game i look at it as both an investment into my future and spending money in a game.
This is something that generally did not exist before, and is really exciting to me.
The comment was a fly off the handle reaction that I made earlier. I am 90% ecstatic and 10% a little annoyed at the time of the comment. I deleted the comment, not due to the reaction to anyone else but after thinking it out and talking with some people about it. I hope your son keeps playing because I actually think he is on the ground floor of something that could be great.
Really all players / card holders benefited greatly from this update, but obviously the mavericks (who are just the players who have spent the most and therefore have the most cards) benefited the most.
This is no different than when something good happens for Bitcoin...it benefits everyone who has some, but obviously it benefits the whales the most.
The new crystals have made it incredibly valuable to have the cards due to the linking of the bot vote and the linking of the new cards coming out. This was a brilliant idea and I am beyond pleased and thankful. As for the mavs I hope they all become millionaires because of this, because I am holding more cards than some of them that sold out or lost interest. The only thing I was complaining about were the few that jobbed the system pretty good at one point. I also mentioned something that some people were acting in front of information, but in hindsight I was looking WAY too far into it and giving them way too much credit for either being that stupid or being that incredibly smart in something I looked into that was splitting hairs anyway. I saw a comment above along the lines of --there is nothing else like this economy dynamic on any blockchain-- and I couldn't agree more this is a breakthrough in every sense of the word in blockchain game theory without question.
By putting cards up for sale before this was announced. Also you profited in getting a $2/day upvote for spending a total of $1k on packs, which was a nice perk but a whole lot of the people got a major chunk of their money back they ever spent in upvotes throughout that period, which is fine. But the mavs also had a $1000 worth in cards and packs as well to go with that, of which many of them sold and crashed the market, which is also fine it's their asset they can do what they want. I am saying some profited in knowing a whole lot before things came out in the early going, then that backed off. Ask the guys that put gold legends up for sale last night at like a 30-40% discounts on the DEC backed value alone on the cards they listed? Maybe you didn't know but these guys are perpetual inside dealers giving anyone a bad name to the maverick crowd that bring good intentions and want a straight-up game as far as information is goes in the game.
And now that cards are on the rise there is a gigantic orb giveaway to the people that go out and buy packs again. Great, I realize money needs to be raised to keep it ongoing and think there definitely should be money raised it's a hell of a game and the developers and stakeholders need to be rewarded. But the second card values jump, I am sorry within a week after cards jump. Us suckers who didn't know this promo was coming were left holding the bag trading our golds right away for orbs when the big girls and boys get bailed in again with a promo that is on the way the second card pops get hammered.
You're right. The implying profanity and lumping all in one group with the outliers was not called for and is untrue. But the rest of it I stand by. Thanks for pointing that out, best of luck in the game.
I am losing more and more faith in the game truthfully. And a lot has to do with the "special" status the Mavs get. What good is the game if it is only 100 people being catered to?(along with them being the only ones playing. My son gained interest again....then lost it after realizing how near impossible it would be to grow his deck. In his words " I'll be like 20 before i have a good cards." I am still playing but I don't know how much longer. Every time they release more new cards, it's another 100s of dollar (if you invest) if you want to have a chance even playing(let alone winning)novice level tournaments. And this is the only real way to build a deck, as daily rewards are a joke any more. I do truly wish for the game to succeed, but i am losing hope.
This is just how any monetary-based system works, and it's also a big part of what differentiates Splinterlands from a traditional game. We cannot both allow the cards to be transferable / sellable and give them away for free. That would be exploited in short order and kill the game as we have seen with a number of other blockchain-based games that don't get this concept.
So yes, any game with transferable / real-valued assets will necessarily be a money game. Do people complain that every time magic the gathering releases a new set of cards you need to spend a bunch of money to purchase them to remain competitive?
We realize this type of game is not for everyone, and that's fine! There are thousands of great games available where you can progress without spending much money, and many of them are much better than Splinterlands right now. But of course they are strictly games and don't offer the financial / collectible elements that blockchain-based or physical games do.
I look at Splinterlands (as well as most blockchain based games) as a combination of an investment vehicle and a game. You can invest in Bitcoin, for example, and you just watch the price and see if it goes up. Similarly you can invest in Splinterlands cards, but you can also have fun with that investment, and earn a return on it by winning more cards/DEC/etc through playing.
But you cannot earn a return on your investment if you haven't made an investment. And obviously the larger your investment, the higher the return you can earn will be.
Regarding your son, here's how i think about this with my son which i think is really cool (and please do not take this as financial advice). I try to save up money for my son (for college or whatever) but i also want to spend money to play games. What's so cool about these types of games is that they can potentially allow me to do both together. I have no idea how this will work out, and i certainly don't put all my money into this, but when i buy assets in a blockchain-based game i look at it as both an investment into my future and spending money in a game.
This is something that generally did not exist before, and is really exciting to me.
The comment was a fly off the handle reaction that I made earlier. I am 90% ecstatic and 10% a little annoyed at the time of the comment. I deleted the comment, not due to the reaction to anyone else but after thinking it out and talking with some people about it. I hope your son keeps playing because I actually think he is on the ground floor of something that could be great.
How exactly did we mavericks profit? We actually just lost our maverick voting bonus which was around 2$ per day ;)
edit:// me aka one of the maverick moth... is gonna flag this to 1cent - no idea why your accusations should earn you money :)
@theaustrianguy, please... everyone can read what is posted in the mav's house
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If Matt says so himself, I don't think it is worth the energy to deny it...
Really all players / card holders benefited greatly from this update, but obviously the mavericks (who are just the players who have spent the most and therefore have the most cards) benefited the most.
This is no different than when something good happens for Bitcoin...it benefits everyone who has some, but obviously it benefits the whales the most.
The new crystals have made it incredibly valuable to have the cards due to the linking of the bot vote and the linking of the new cards coming out. This was a brilliant idea and I am beyond pleased and thankful. As for the mavs I hope they all become millionaires because of this, because I am holding more cards than some of them that sold out or lost interest. The only thing I was complaining about were the few that jobbed the system pretty good at one point. I also mentioned something that some people were acting in front of information, but in hindsight I was looking WAY too far into it and giving them way too much credit for either being that stupid or being that incredibly smart in something I looked into that was splitting hairs anyway. I saw a comment above along the lines of --there is nothing else like this economy dynamic on any blockchain-- and I couldn't agree more this is a breakthrough in every sense of the word in blockchain game theory without question.
By putting cards up for sale before this was announced. Also you profited in getting a $2/day upvote for spending a total of $1k on packs, which was a nice perk but a whole lot of the people got a major chunk of their money back they ever spent in upvotes throughout that period, which is fine. But the mavs also had a $1000 worth in cards and packs as well to go with that, of which many of them sold and crashed the market, which is also fine it's their asset they can do what they want. I am saying some profited in knowing a whole lot before things came out in the early going, then that backed off. Ask the guys that put gold legends up for sale last night at like a 30-40% discounts on the DEC backed value alone on the cards they listed? Maybe you didn't know but these guys are perpetual inside dealers giving anyone a bad name to the maverick crowd that bring good intentions and want a straight-up game as far as information is goes in the game.
And now that cards are on the rise there is a gigantic orb giveaway to the people that go out and buy packs again. Great, I realize money needs to be raised to keep it ongoing and think there definitely should be money raised it's a hell of a game and the developers and stakeholders need to be rewarded. But the second card values jump, I am sorry within a week after cards jump. Us suckers who didn't know this promo was coming were left holding the bag trading our golds right away for orbs when the big girls and boys get bailed in again with a promo that is on the way the second card pops get hammered.
You're right. The implying profanity and lumping all in one group with the outliers was not called for and is untrue. But the rest of it I stand by. Thanks for pointing that out, best of luck in the game.