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RE: Steemvoter.com: Business Rescue Crowdfund

in #steemvoter8 years ago

While I appreciate having the service available as an option for people, I don't feel like its worth $3K USD. If this is tool is truly valued by the community, and we're seriously going to try and bail it out then perhaps it should be made open source at least.

I don't think thats going to happen though, and others considering supporting this should read this relevant quote from @marcgodard

Perhaps, but that depends on what you mean by recover? Its value will never be more than a couple cents. Steemit was doomed from the start if you look at its fundamental value. My goal was to profit from it while it lasted, well it didn't last long enough to really profit from it.

"Doomed from the start" .. Mmk

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Hi @ausbitbank, thanks for your input, firstly I wasn't aware of the above comment from @marcgodard, but it is irrelevant because if I take it over I am a Steem evangelist, with the @steemdrive billboard campaign, @steemsports and am a top 40 witness so one will be hard pressed to find any negative comments from me about Steem. Infact I just recently spoke at Steem Saturday as per @gavvet's post live right now.

The price is subjective I guess, some domains sell for thousands ... I remember seeing cryptosports.com recently selling for several thousand, in this case steemvoter.com comes with the package which holds value in itself.

Maybe Marc will come down in price for me if I don't raise enough. :)

Regarding Open Sourcing, if we have a lot of these services popping up, everyone starts loading their posting keys and emails on them, next minute people get compromised or spammed by owners of other copycat solutions who aren't as noble in intentions as I am. Also with increased competition I wouldn't be able to sustain it long either, nor be able to fund the great features I want to implement and could hamper progress and feasibility of running this project.

buy it and keep it alive, it's the most valuable application on steemit right now. I am telling myself that you have already figured out how to pay mark for this service with several crowdfunding posts like this one over the next 3 weeks or less... it's a done deal :)

Yip you figured it out :) I used to be able to do this on one post with Steemdrive ... now it's a long haul to raise that kind of money. I should actually make a Steemvoter post on Steemdrive too, it has quite a few followers, thanks for helping stimulate the idea.

when the inflation rate of steem is cut, and rewards are 75% of new steem, then raising $3000 will not be hard, as the price of steem starts rising

It's been a long strange day and I was a bit harsh earlier - the annoyance was more at mark then yourself.. I've upvoted after reading the rest of the comments hours later , best of luck :)

Just because I think steem is flawed (evidenced by them trying to fix it), doesn't mean my site has no value. I still think it is flawed (then the steemit account is still pulling out --powering down-- about $100k worth every week, it is a sign of the times). Yes, I was looking to profit by providing a service, when is that a bad thing? Well it didn't last long enough for me to profit... also true. Not sure what your issue is.

I can't speak for him, but I don't think @ausbitbank necessarily has an "issue" - but motivated by giving us a little transparency about the genus of the project. Many of us are "steem-evangelists" and have dedicated and donated much of our time, creativity and resources to build a solid foundation before making a profit. Good or bad, it's a leap of faith many of us have put in this platform. Frankly, I'm glad to learn more about it and I am aware of @thecryptodrive's dedication to Steemit.

Hopefully you two can work out a reasonable price or haggle a payment agreement so he can carry the torch and implement the changes he envisions. Sometimes it's simply a leap of faith.

I never said it has no value, I think its a neat tool and I've used it myself in the past. However when compared to all of the tools , voting bots and sites like @xeroc's streemian (all free) I don't believe it's worth paying $3000 up front for in its current state - especially with no income to speak of.

And yes, I was annoyed to see you claiming its all over, and never had any value - whilst your still trying to extract even more value from the system yourself.

We all like money, some of us are thinking long term and comments like that do nothing good for the community or public perception. Part of me thinks we would be better off putting that 3k towards something else, rather then handing it to someone with no faith in the future of steemit that plans to dump it on an already weak market.

Protocol level curation guilds are on the way , and open source voting bots already exist - This is simply a website that configures the user list for a votebot that may be irrelevant within months...

To be fair, there is a monetary aspect behind streemian.com (of course). Those are for one, limits that you can exceed after paying a fee (I am working on this currently) as well as premium features for very low money.
There is another aspect of it that is someone controversial and that is: Since I have voting power over my customers account, I could use that to upvote my own content and thus profit from my user base. Currently, streemian.com does not do that and before I plan to do this, I will ask people to either opt-in or opt-out of this particular revenue model.
More to come in the months ahead. Anyways, streemian.com is mature every week and becomes more and more robust as we speak. I am confident I can go out of private beta sometime soon (tm)