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RE: SteeveBot Starts Rewarding Steeve Community’s Most Appreciated Content

in #steeve6 years ago

Engagement ...

  • Isn't it that 'famous' users are always receiving a huge number of automated upvotes anyway, independently of the quality of their content? Would there be a way to count only manual, non-automated upvotes (of course excluding bid bot votes, too)? Probably not so easy, I guess ...

  • Concerning the comments: couldn't the length of the comments play a role as well (word count)? Even better would be to analyse the structure of comments anyhow (otherwise abusing users would start to create automated long comments).

The 6.5 days is there because the last 12 hours before post’s payout only downvotes are allowed by the blockchain due to security reasons.

That's wrong! Since HF 20 there is a cool-down period instead:

Velocity will address this potential scenario by modifying the lock-out to a cool-down. After Velocity, upvotes and downvotes will both be allowed during the last 12 hours of the payout period, but their strength (for the same amount of voting power) will decrease linearly from 100% to 0% over that 12-hour period.

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Hi @jaki01, thanks for your inputs and for checking Steeve out!

Would there be a way to count only manual, non-automated upvotes (of course excluding bid bot votes, too)?

That's how we are doing it! As you say, it's not easy, it's probably not 100% yet, but we are doing our best. Also for the engagement we use only activity of our users which goes via Steeve. That also helps with identifying its genuineness.

Concerning the comments:

Yes, our plan is to work more on the estimate of quality of engagement in the future, but we had to start somewhere and improve gradually.

That's wrong! Since HF 20 there is a cool-down period instead:

You're right, sorry for the outdated information. But the result is the same, we don't want to make the upvote in the last 12 hours as we would be wasting our voting power.

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Did I understand correctly: in case I log in using steeve, and then upvote anything (or only anything recommended by steeve?), steeve will create a comment and upvote it by using my voting power? Is it also correct that you disable curation reward for these votes? If 'yes', why? Then the author has not only to upvote your comment but furthermore loses his curation reward ...
(Sorry, in case I was reading too superficial and got it wrong or my memory is misleading me.)

What is the benefit for the user to use the steeve interface? Is it to find articles that he normally wouldn't have found? So actually the author benefits ... and you think that thus in the long run STEEM will benefit because good authors earn more money?

Hi @jaki01, I must have missed this comment, sorry!

Yes, if you upvote anything recommended by Steeve, we will automatically charge you this way for 10% of your original vote strength (if you upvote 100%, we take 10%. If 10%, then we take 1%, ...).

Is it also correct that you disable curation reward for these votes? If 'yes', why?

This is no longer true. It was supposed to be a temporary work-around for the 15 minutes reverse auction, but it didn't work anyway, so we changed it after the first day. The vote is automatically given after 15+ minutes and the curation rewards are enabled.

The main benefit of using Steeve is the recommendations. We believe that the absence of any form of content discovery outside of user's feed is seriously impairing the whole platform. It's hard for people to find new interesting authors and for new interesting authors it's hard to find the audience. That's what we strive to improve.

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We believe that the absence of any form of content discovery outside of user's feed is seriously impairing the whole platform.

That's true ... but not in my case, because actually I don't care sooo much about my feed. :)